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08-25-2007, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SECdomination
I'm a guy, and didn't realize this kind of thing was an infraction. Many, if not all of the chapters at my school do this type of thing.
Examples from different houses:
-During philanthropy round, you only make a craft if the rusher is bored.
-You get to sit in the formal living room or chapter room if you are more attractive during round one, while the less attractive girls stand in the hallways.
-"calling cards" are crumpled, folded, dropped in different bowls, etc. for different rankings.
-I know one house where rushers will put their weight on one foot to show that they want the president or recruitment chair to meet their girl.
-walking a girl upstairs with her on your left means "yes" while on the right means "no"
-these really go on forever...
Are those kinds of things really infractions? To me, it just seems much more efficient for large rushes.
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I don't realize why those are needed. For example, making a craft with a PNM if the rusher is bored. Maybe she didn't click with that particular rusher, but why does she need to broadcast her opinion to everyone else? The next girl to talk to the PNM might click with her (might have more in common or is a better rusher) and she could end up being a keeper. But if an active is giving "no" signals, then the next rusher is going to think "Oh great another painful 7 minute conversation". The only "signal" that I could think of that would be useful is to have a "help me conversation is slow" to let actives who are "floating" come help the conversation. Even for chapters that have to make the biggest cuts, why do they need to signal? They can just share their opinions later.
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08-25-2007, 08:51 PM
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Even for chapters that have to make the biggest cuts, why do they need to signal? They can just share their opinions later.
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I totally agree with this... I mean, do they not get to share their opinions on girls later on? Many of these systems seem very complicated to me.
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08-25-2007, 09:04 PM
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None of the systems mentioned make any sense to me. All they are going to do it make guest feel uncomfortable. The chapter gets to share information with each other about the guest later; it's not like it has to be telegraphed during the party.
But I'm just as baffled as why Panhellenic would be involved in preventing them as I am with chapters using them.
If the chapter wants to treat guests at the party differently before they do their invite lists, it hardly seems like something that an outsider can or should control, seeing as the chapter is eventually going to be able to use whatever method that they want to in selecting members.
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08-25-2007, 09:23 PM
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I can see a logic behind using these systems. Let's say you're a chapter of 100 girls and 75 girls are coming to each party. 25 sisters are left that don't "have" to rush someone and instead are floating around to meet as many other people at the party as they can. If you're with a girl who says "I'm a PDQ legacy and I don't even WANT to be at your house but my stupid Rho Chi is making me" why would you want your president or recruitment chair to waste their time with this girl? She's obviously not somebody you want and they can go talk to the sister who's rushing the triple legacy to your house, the football coach's daughter, etc.
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08-25-2007, 09:33 PM
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Well, I guess that could kind of explain the standing on one foot kind of thing, which makes sense if you have a VIP guest too. But not the cut room or cut sign system. At that point the investment has been made, right? She's met the president and still has a rusher. You can wait until MS to tell that you want to cut her.
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08-25-2007, 10:41 PM
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Back to dgdramadawg - congrats to your little sister and KKG!
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08-26-2007, 12:00 PM
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Geez, I go away from the computer for a day and I miss the only Kappa rush story so far this year!
Congratulations to your sister!
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08-27-2007, 02:44 AM
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I do know of one chapter of my school where a girl has flat out told me that there are different "rooms" that they will bring rushees into...that is, all the VIP/legacies/scholars/bombshells, etc that they really really really want will all be led into the same room while everybody else is in different rooms. Not that the girls in other rooms won't have a shot, I guess it's just more of a psychological way of having girls look around and seeing everybody in their room be either the best from their rush group or the best, most accomplished and best rushers (cynically, the most attractive) of the chapter. That kind of made sense to me.
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08-28-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bamagirl09
On ice waters my chapter uses one room for our tops, legacies, and girls who, as my grandmother would say, tickle our fancies to begin with. These girls are placed here so they can meet the girl in charge of our rush group, the president, and the rush chair.
The other room is for girls who are random. Random is not necessarily a bad thing, it just means we don't know them yet. Our potential tops and rush crushes come from this group.
The girls exit according to how much we like them. Girls who we do not feel fit into our chapter go first. Then girls who are "randoms" but we like. Next, are the girls who are legacies that we do not want. Then tops who did not make a good impression. After that go the tops and best legacies. The final two girls out of the house are the chapter's favorite in that party.
With so many girls in each party, there has to be some distinction made so that the girls that we are really interested in get more exposure.
After ice waters, the girls are seated according to how much the girls in the chapter like them.
Top in the front, the ones who haven't made a good impression in the back.
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This is VERY similar to what my chapter did during rush as well...top rushees were kept in the house as long as possible, sat up front during skit day, and were usually taken upstairs during serious night...those that "lacked luster" were usually the first out and sat in the back.
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08-28-2007, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bamabelle99
This is VERY similar to what my chapter did during rush as well...top rushees were kept in the house as long as possible, sat up front during skit day, and were usually taken upstairs during serious night...those that "lacked luster" were usually the first out and sat in the back.
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My chapter does the same thing...with the exception of Serious Night as that's now considering Hotboxing and therefore illegal. When you have that many girls coming through, you have to come up with an efficient system that enables you to rush the girls you know you really want while providing an opportunity to meet potential rush crushes.
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