University of Alabama Recruitment 2007

irishpipes · #1 08-22-2007, 10:58 AM

I guess I am thinking of the KD situation differently. I am wondering if this is a case of a strong chapter falling victim to the new release figures - not being familiar enough yet with that process to avoid this pitfall. I know that a few years ago at Georgia some of the strongest chapters had to snap to quota and the general feeling was that the new release figures caught them off guard a little. The new release figures help the smaller chapters right off the bat, but the stronger ones may need several recruitments to understand fully how to achieve the same results with fewer PNMs.

Just a thought.

Bamarox · #2 08-22-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

I guess I am thinking of the KD situation differently. I am wondering if this is a case of a strong chapter falling victim to the new release figures - not being familiar enough yet with that process to avoid this pitfall. I know that a few years ago at Georgia some of the strongest chapters had to snap to quota and the general feeling was that the new release figures caught them off guard a little. The new release figures help the smaller chapters right off the bat, but the stronger ones may need several recruitments to understand fully how to achieve the same results with fewer PNMs.

Just a thought.

That's exactly what happened. Because they have had one of the highest return percentages they had a higher release figure. If you are not smart you will miss quota, next year their release figures will be lower. For the top houses there is very little margin of error.

Tex-A-Bama · #3 08-22-2007, 12:39 PM

You ladies have been great keeping us all informed of the Rush #'s and such. My daughter is a legacy of a chapter that is not present on this campus. She had a great expierence and never once complained.I think the Rush process works and these young ladies end up where they belong. The strength of character comes out going through Rush especially in the dog days of summer. My daughter is happy

so I am happy. Personally invoved in Bama rush and now moving on to a
texas rush a little more at ease. A little diffence in #'s. 795 women going through.

kk_bama · #4 08-22-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex-A-Bama

You ladies have been great keeping us all informed of the Rush #'s and such. My daughter is a legacy of a chapter that is not present on this campus. She had a great expierence and never once complained.I think the Rush process works and these young ladies end up where they belong. The strength of character comes out going through Rush especially in the dog days of summer. My daughter is happy

so I am happy. Personally invoved in Bama rush and now moving on to a
texas rush a little more at ease. A little diffence in #'s. 795 women going through.

Where did your daughter end up pledging at Bama? I glanced through the list and saw quite a few women from Texas pledging Theta ... Theta is so strong there!

LXA SE285 · #5 08-22-2007, 12:55 PM

I wanna know what "fried Friday" is.

kk_bama · #6 08-22-2007, 01:07 PM

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I wanna know what "fried Friday" is.

Friday lunch at the sorority houses is ALWAYS something fried: chicken fingers, fried chicken, french fries, fried seafood, etc.

No wonder I gained weight at Bama.

Sloooowly working it off in the past couple years.

Not to mention that you can get sweet tea 24/7 at my sorority house. Geekypenguin knows all about that!

GeekyPenguin · #7 08-22-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kk_bama

Friday lunch at the sorority houses is ALWAYS something fried: chicken fingers, fried chicken, french fries, fried seafood, etc.

No wonder I gained weight at Bama.

Sloooowly working it off in the past couple years.

Not to mention that you can get sweet tea 24/7 at my sorority house. Geekypenguin knows all about that!

MMMMMM sweet tea! They finally started carrying it at the grocery store by my apartment.

MVisKD · #8 08-22-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by LXA SE285

I wanna know what "fried Friday" is.

THE BEST DAY EVER!!!!!! Great hangover food of fried chicken fingers, french fries, fried cheese sticks, etc etc. DELICIOUS!

Tex-A-Bama · #9 08-22-2007, 01:53 PM

Theta was her second choice.She went ZTA

AU_ZTA86 · #10 08-22-2007, 02:13 PM

Yay - another ZTA!

bamabelle99 · #11 08-22-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tex-A-Bama

Theta was her second choice.She went ZTA

Yeah Zeta!!!!

bejazd · #12 08-22-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

I guess I am thinking of the KD situation differently. I am wondering if this is a case of a strong chapter falling victim to the new release figures - not being familiar enough yet with that process to avoid this pitfall.

I wouldn't look it at it as "falling victim." If you think about the way the new release figure method works, it's normal to expect that some very strong chapters are going to miss quota from year to year. Top chapters have big release numbers and they are all competing for the same girls. But the chapters aren't psychic. They can't possibly know for sure what Polly PNM or Patty PNM is going to do ....it's happened to everyone that a group of PNMs that have "bonded" during recruitment week and they all decide they want to stick together and pick the one house they all have in commom and boom! there goes 5,6 10 girls on your bid list who may truly have loved you. Whatever. Some of the greatest members you'll ever get are pledged in COR.

Sheesh all these chapters are fabulous in their own right. I give 'em all snaps for a terrific recruitment!

irishpipes · #13 08-22-2007, 05:05 PM

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I wouldn't look it at it as "falling victim." If you think about the way the new release figure method works, it's normal to expect that some very strong chapters are going to miss quota from year to year. Top chapters have big release numbers and they are all competing for the same girls. But the chapters aren't psychic. They can't possibly know for sure what Polly PNM or Patty PNM is going to do ....it's happened to everyone that a group of PNMs that have "bonded" during recruitment week and they all decide they want to stick together and pick the one house they all have in commom and boom! there goes 5,6 10 girls on your bid list who may truly have loved you. Whatever. Some of the greatest members you'll ever get are pledged in COR.

Sheesh all these chapters are fabulous in their own right. I give 'em all snaps for a terrific recruitment!

I am not understanding why you prefaced your remark as if you disagreed with me, and then went on to prove my point. When you aren't allowed to ask as many girls back, losing 5, 6, or 10 from your bid list could put your chapter below quota.

Anyway, I stand by my phrasing of "falling victim." I like the new release figures and support using them, but they are absolutely intended to make things easier for the weaker chapters, which consequently makes things more difficult for the stronger ones. As you stated, it is normal under the new method to expect the stronger chapters to miss quota from time to time. Since that wouldn't have likely happened previously, they are falling victim to the new process. It's not the end of the world, yes, they can COB or just go with what they got, but it is a potential consequence of the new system.

And I don't believe I said anything which implied that I didn't think the chapters were fabulous.

NutBrnHair · #14 08-22-2007, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

Anyway, I stand by phrasing of "falling victim." I like the new release figures and support using them, but they are absolutely intended to make things easier for the weaker chapters, which consequently makes things more difficult for the stronger ones. As you stated, it is normal under the new method to expect the stronger chapters to miss quota from time to time. Since that wouldn't have likely happened previously, they are falling victim to the new process. It's not the end of the world, yes, they can COB or just go with what they got, but it is a potential consequence to the new system.

Sing it, sister! You are absolutely right on.

UGAalum94 · #15 08-22-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

Anyway, I stand by my phrasing of "falling victim." I like the new release figures and support using them, but they are absolutely intended to make things easier for the weaker chapters, which consequently makes things more difficult for the stronger ones.

Are the new release figures absolutely intended to make things easier for the smaller chapters?

I agree that they completely cause the effects that you described: harder on the big, easier on the small, but I really believed that the biggest intention was to allow the most women to find chapters.

Before release figures, groups could carry many times the number of women that they were likely to give bids to all the way through prefs, if they wanted to.

And I know groups release anyone that they wouldn't really want as a sister before prefs, but not being forced to make huge cuts still meant that some groups invited way more women to prefs than they needed, and the PNMs had no idea that they were just "extra."

So what I'm saying is that although it does make it harder on the strong groups to make quota than a less regulated system does, if we really want to be "panhellenic" about it, we should probably acknowledge that it's about overall placement for suitable women into groups, rather than simply leveling the playing field for the groups. Basically, it's as much about the PNMs success as group success.