The white nationalist version of The Olsen Twins?

[Animate]

Originally Posted by TotallyWicked

Ironically, I was lookin at this a bit earlier today....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE4UlwNLMlE

That ish was wild! Grandpa is off the chain. "Mudpeople" really?

What 15 year old has political views that comprehensive? Their handler (mom) is on her job.

The relationship that they have with their mom is going to turn out bad if things continue the way they have been. It seems the girls think individually when mom is not around.

[TotallyWicked]

did you see the entire documentary? I cannot believe people actually have these beliefs.."I shoot Cans..Mexicans..I done killed 6 within the past 4 years"?

Grandma seemed to be the only one with a good head on her shoulders...Mom needs to go drive off a cliff...it's clear the girls don't agree with her views.

[preciousjeni]

These people have constructed a worldview that is so warped, all I can even think to do is pray.

[Educatingblue]

Lord, forgive me for what I'm about to say....but, it seems like the mom got all of this crazy propaganda from the twins' father and after they broke it off and she was left with two mouths to feed who did not look like trailer trash, so she decided to exploit them

There's always a motive

[Lyoness]

Originally Posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker

http://jezebel.com/gossip/clips/teen...ilt-288924.php

I found this interesting clip from a recent documentary on the twins.

I guess it didn't stick. Good for them. I really hope they turn out okay. I remember when I first saw the 20/20 documentary, I felt extremely sad for them and wondered what how their lives would end up. Their mother is nuts!! I remember an interview with the twins' father and apparently he's not a racist. He knew how his ex-wife was but couldn't get custody of his girls because he was an ex-con (robbery, I think).

[christiangirl]

Not to get off topic, but since when do the Olsen twins sing? I could swear they were actresses.

Somebody brought this up in a government class in high school. She said that it was unfair the way celebarting your heritage has such a double standard. There could be BSUs at every school, but if there was ever a White Student Union, then they'd be called KKKs and run out of town. Even as people were rolling their eyes, I could see she had a point, but this....I try to see the silver lining in everybody, but I don't know what to say about this. I think it's a good-intention forced on them by their parent(s) and then mutated and twisted into a money-making scheme that will eventually get them beat down and hiding out with Osama. But at least they'll have their blue eyes to remind them where they came from.*sigh*

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Somebody brought this up in a government class in high school. She said that it was unfair the way celebarting your heritage has such a double standard. There could be BSUs at every school, but if there was ever a White Student Union, then they'd be called KKKs and run out of town. Even as people were rolling their eyes, I could see she had a point, but this....

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

Cultural pride can also be artificially created through fanaticism (e.g. KKK).

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Not to get off topic, but since when do the Olsen twins sing? I could swear they were actresses.

Somebody brought this up in a government class in high school. She said that it was unfair the way celebarting your heritage has such a double standard. There could be BSUs at every school, but if there was ever a White Student Union, then they'd be called KKKs and run out of town. Even as people were rolling their eyes, I could see she had a point, but this....I try to see the silver lining in everybody, but I don't know what to say about this.

First, the BSU formations on several PWI campuses was done for "PROTECTION". Some Universities did NOT allow Black students to use the library to study. They had to study elsewhere and find a way. Generally, the Black churches provided protection. But not always.

Times may have changed alot, but not that much. And to all for the illusion of inclusion is to have somebody wind up disillusioned. Your classmate is disillusioned to think that no one can associate based on their heritage.

I couldn't give a crippa crap if the KKK and Nazi's formed student groups if they wanted to Provide scholarships to "their people". But, who are they really going to select? How are they going to say their selected winner truly DESERVED their scholarship into White Studies--what studies are White? And if they switch it around and say European, what part of Europe? What about the Russians, Turks and other Eastern European countries? Are they accepted? You want to see ugly and immediate stratification in campus, let your admins buy into that crap... If it were me, I say they show Jerry Springer every day with Girls Gone Wild... And let homegirl be pissed off.

This is the same crap we of the NPHC get bombarded with all the time. There's another post somewhere on GC questioning ethnically sounding lastnames. People forget that the discrimination against one's surname breaks the 1965 Civil Rights Act.

Oh well so much for knowing one's history... Too many of our elders and responsible parents have died. Know thyself and move forward.

Even the GC Southern Elite are not that heartless. Maybe?

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

I should have made myself more clear. She was referring to celebrating struggles of their ancestors from their invididual European cultures and all the different countries they came from--not just the white Americans who sat around enslaving people. That was what I found a valid point.

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Oh well so much for knowing one's history... Too many of our elders and responsible parents have died. Know thyself and move forward.

Was that a general statement or are you actually implying that I don't know my own history?

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

She doesn't have a point. Cultural pride develops out of something significant that a people has experienced. Whites may have had that during times like the Revolutionary War and the Civil War, but where do you see it today?

Cultural pride can also be artificially created through fanaticism (e.g. KKK).

Cultural pride I don't have a problem with - but "white" is NOT a culture, and the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism. That's history, and I don't know why it isn't standard HS curriculum. Sad.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

Cultural pride I don't have a problem with - but "white" is NOT a culture, and the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism. That's history, and I don't know why it isn't standard HS curriculum. Sad.

Agreed. And I believe the girl christiangirl was referring to did not understand the distinction. There ARE European Student Associations, Irish/Gaelic Student Associations, Slavic Student Associations, etc. Heck, there's even Daughters of the American Revolution and United Daughters of the Confederacy. But, I daresay, these groups are not limited to whites.

[christiangirl]

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

... the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism.

If you don't mind my asking, how? I think I know what you mean (and agree with you to an extent), but I want you to describe it in the way you mean it, so I don't end up putting words in your cyber-mouth later.

[DSTRen13]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

If you don't mind my asking, how? I think I know what you mean (and agree with you to an extent), but I want you to describe it in the way you mean it, so I don't end up putting words in your cyber-mouth later.

The whole concept of "whiteness" is racist, really - historically, you can trace how it's used, always in opposition to whatever lower class "other" is being trampled on at the time. Once a group becomes more accepted by the mainstream, then somehow they get brought into the "white" label (the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Eastern Europeans). "Whiteness" inherently implies "white" versus "not white". To try to create a culture around that is sick and twisted, and a relatively recent historical phenomenon (the past 150 years or so, depending on your analysis). All of that history leads to our idea of "white" and race in general today - even when people use these concepts and don't know where they come from, you still can't separate it from that history.

[aideclaire]

It is a sad day in America when these types of things exist in the mind of mere children...


Makes you wanna "pimp slap" the parents for subjecting their children to such ignorance...why I tell you, why?!@?!

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by christiangirl

Was that a general statement or are you actually implying that I don't know my own history?

It was a general statement made toward "your friend" who made those stupid comments as clearly explained below:

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

Cultural pride I don't have a problem with - but "white" is NOT a culture, and the creation of white as a culture is, by definition, extremely virulent racism. That's history, and I don't know why it isn't standard HS curriculum. Sad.

Originally Posted by DSTRen13

The whole concept of "whiteness" is racist, really - historically, you can trace how it's used, always in opposition to whatever lower class "other" is being trampled on at the time. Once a group becomes more accepted by the mainstream, then somehow they get brought into the "white" label (the Irish, the Italians, the Jews, the Eastern Europeans). "Whiteness" inherently implies "white" versus "not white". To try to create a culture around that is sick and twisted, and a relatively recent historical phenomenon (the past 150 years or so, depending on your analysis). All of that history leads to our idea of "white" and race in general today - even when people use these concepts and don't know where they come from, you still can't separate it from that history.

But you and I know that the ignorant spin doctors will twist this "how come 'BLACK' people" have a "culture". While I agree with your statements, this issue does come down to just black and white and the colloquial terms people enjoy to throw around so randomly.

And you know folks who lack confidence as to who they are and their stances have fundamental issues in making this argument. The heinousness of these distinctions I feel are antiquated now. Somewhat of an old insignificant and irrelevant tripe when the true, modern, realistic issues are overlooked.

Originally Posted by aideclaire

It is a sad day in America when these types of things exist in the mind of mere children...

Makes you wanna "pimp slap" the parents for subjecting their children to such ignorance... why I tell you, why?!@?!

I was thinking the same thing about the incident christiangirl described.