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08-18-2007, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bejazd
But doesn't a large number of QA's also indicate that somewhere in the the statistical end of recruitment, there are several chapters (maybe most of them) that simply kept inviting too many women to their parties (even if it was only by say 4-5?) and when they ended up having a better recruitment than they expected, these women sort of piled up and became the "mismatched." ????
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This is where the concept of Quota Range comes into play. Under the old matching methods, quota was set usually by the number of women attending the round before preference OR the number of women receiving preference invitations. And it rarely changed. Now that we use Quota Range, we can run quota at several different numbers and see which one achieves the greatest parity. Oftentimes that makes quota on the lower end of the range. That leaves more women unmatched. So they wind up as QAs. But the tradeoff is that more chapters make quota with women who get their first choice.
And you make a point about chapters doing better than expected. That always happens - and that's good! We want chapters to improve their operations. If the campus uses priority ranking rather than accept/regret, those situations can usually be addressed with flex lists.
The bottom line is that while there may still be quota additions, weaker chapters are pledging quota or very close.
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08-19-2007, 01:35 PM
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This is where the concept of Quota Range comes into play. Under the old matching methods, quota was set usually by the number of women attending the round before preference OR the number of women receiving preference invitations. And it rarely changed. Now that we use Quota Range, we can run quota at several different numbers and see which one achieves the greatest parity. Oftentimes that makes quota on the lower end of the range. That leaves more women unmatched. So they wind up as QAs. But the tradeoff is that more chapters make quota with women who get their first choice.
And you make a point about chapters doing better than expected. That always happens - and that's good! We want chapters to improve their operations. If the campus uses priority ranking rather than accept/regret, those situations can usually be addressed with flex lists.
The bottom line is that while there may still be quota additions, weaker chapters are pledging quota or very close.
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Gotcha. So mathematically, probably about the same total overall # of PNMs will get bids, they'll just be spread around more evenly, with the possibility of one or two chapters pledging a very large number of QAs pretty much eliminated .
As far as the chapters go, under the new system, what incentive do they have to play fair with each other as far as sticking to their max recommended invite #?
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08-19-2007, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bejazd
Gotcha. So mathematically, probably about the same total overall # of PNMs will get bids, they'll just be spread around more evenly, with the possibility of one or two chapters pledging a very large number of QAs pretty much eliminated.
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Exactly.
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Originally Posted by bejazd
As far as the chapters go, under the new system, what incentive do they have to play fair with each other as far as sticking to their max recommended invite #?
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Well, the Panhellenic spirit first and foremost. If everyone espouses the "you're only as strong as your weakest link" mentality, everyone will want all chapters to succeed. There really hasn't been an issue with one chapter trying to hurt another through release figures. Additionally, if they are using ICS, the maximum number of invites is programmed into the system, and it will not allow them to exceed it. They can underinvite, but they can't overinvite. Underinviting only hurts them - and the PNMs to some extent. But it can't hurt another chapter.
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08-19-2007, 01:47 PM
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We've had several threads on here about legacies and also what a hard time they have these days during competitive rushes. It's heartbreaking. Yes, I know that many chapters have more legacies than they have spots open but it's still heartbreaking for moms and sisters of released PNMs.
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08-19-2007, 01:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bejazd
Gotcha. So mathematically, probably about the same total overall # of PNMs will get bids, they'll just be spread around more evenly, with the possibility of one or two chapters pledging a very large number of QAs pretty much eliminated .
As far as the chapters go, under the new system, what incentive do they have to play fair with each other as far as sticking to their max recommended invite #?
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I was wondering this too. If it's only eligibility to receive girls as quota additions, it seems strange that it's motivating enough, especially since the really big chapters already only seem to get one or two. But I guess if you end up with great results, it's not a hardship.
(I'm really thinking of the middle chapters who have been so traditionally solid who have much more at stake if they cut the wrong girls; they might find themselves having to snap because they had to release so many in previous rounds. I think I might rather keep more and forgo the possibility of QAs.)
ETA: But if it's programmed in, I guess you can't.
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