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Old 08-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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I havent read thru the whole article (I am sorry I didn't read the post...just the article...) yet....I have a job I am supposed to be doing.....LOL
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Old 08-01-2007, 08:53 PM
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...a prospective applicant, labeling him a "ghetto dude" . The girl has since left/been fired, this guy has been innundated with job offers.

What's interesting is that people are only discussing this from a racism POV and not an email etiquette POV
I am not shocked by the angle of POV. Racism and the discussion there of it, is very alluring and provocative versus your Southern cousins in the United States...

Are you upset that the guy is getting offers and the girl got fired and cannot find a job because of what she thought? I dunno? Does Canada have the right to free speech?

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question is...does she still have a job and if not...how long will it take HER to find a job after that
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I havent read thru the whole article (I am sorry I didn't read the post...just the article...) yet....I have a job I am supposed to be doing.....LOL
The judgement of one group versus another is morally reprehensible, especially if you call yourself certain things. How can we reach the BEYOND in humanity when we cannot communicate effectively?

Discernment and deference is key.
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Old 08-01-2007, 10:56 PM
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I am not shocked by the angle of POV. Racism and the discussion there of it, is very alluring and provocative versus your Southern cousins in the United States...

Are you upset that the guy is getting offers and the girl got fired and cannot find a job because of what she thought? I dunno? Does Canada have the right to free speech?



1. Canada's Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the right to Freedom of Expression

2. I am also very surprised the the (mainstream) media has not addressed minority on minority racism (and little talk of classism in this case too).

3. We aren't sure if the girl was fired or if she resigned.
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:48 PM
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2. I am also very surprised the the (mainstream) media has not addressed minority on minority racism (and little talk of classism in this case too).

3. We aren't sure if the girl was fired or if she resigned.
I am of the opinion that is very difficult for those ethnic groups who have been oppressed in the past to be racist. But that is my opinion. REMEMBER I SAID RACIST--NOT BIGOTTED... I do believe ANYONE CAN BE A BIGOT!!!

If I say some craziness that I hate another ethnic group outside my own, it will not may a dayum bit a difference on that entire ethnic group. I have little power to affect the bulk of people.

However, I have the ability to select someone or not for a job position based on physical features/factors, to me that is hatred and bigotry. Racism, provocative as it could be, just by that act, the young man has several offers!!!

For the US, it is the same as Michael Richards or Don Imus invoking the N-word. Although, they lost careers--temporarily--in a few years, they will be back where they want to be carefully manuvering through the fine line of racial division.

However, this incident make have taught us that we all must be vigilant for all people's human and civil rights. We cannot kid ourselves into fathoming that during these times of duress--for the U.S.--we need can all learn to love a little bit longer as well as stronger...
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:00 AM
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I am of the opinion that is very difficult for those ethnic groups who have been oppressed in the past to be racist. But that is my opinion. REMEMBER I SAID RACIST--NOT BIGOTTED... I do believe ANYONE CAN BE A BIGOT!!!
Maybe, but it's an entirely different story for first generation immigrants and their children (which I assume Aileen is). who live in an area where oppression is quite low. Many of these immigrants still believe in what they were taught in the old country and like it or not, it rubs off on their kids. A lot of Asian groups are very, very racist (some even have trouble understanding the concept of being foreign AND being from their own culture.)
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:26 AM
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Maybe, but it's an entirely different story for first generation immigrants and their children (which I assume Aileen is). who live in an area where oppression is quite low. Many of these immigrants still believe in what they were taught in the old country and like it or not, it rubs off on their kids. A lot of Asian groups are very, very racist (some even have trouble understanding the concept of being foreign AND being from their own culture.)
While I am beginning to see the divisions with in various Asian cultures, I see that after some things have happened in the U.S., folks here are getting crazy against anyone who physically looks Asian. I hear it, and it hurts. I think it is crazy. If it continues, I often do say something.

I.e. my boss is old and a bigot, he has said the N-word to me justifying why words are harmless. Well... Let's say I can live in suspended animation for roughly 2 seconds before I need to catch my breath, but going off on my boss--not gonna happen--with enough psychotropic meds. Anyhow, he told a co-worker of mine who is Asian, that he appears "suicidal"... I could see that my co-worker was obviously pissed. I usually wind up saying some crazy stuff to my professor... Like, discussing opiate and cannabinoid receptor turnover...
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:06 AM
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While I am beginning to see the divisions with in various Asian cultures, I see that after some things have happened in the U.S., folks here are getting crazy against anyone who physically looks Asian. I hear it, and it hurts. I think it is crazy. If it continues, I often do say something.

I.e. my boss is old and a bigot, he has said the N-word to me justifying why words are harmless. Well... Let's say I can live in suspended animation for roughly 2 seconds before I need to catch my breath, but going off on my boss--not gonna happen--with enough psychotropic meds. Anyhow, he told a co-worker of mine who is Asian, that he appears "suicidal"... I could see that my co-worker was obviously pissed. I usually wind up saying some crazy stuff to my professor... Like, discussing opiate and cannabinoid receptor turnover...

Now what does that have to do with racist Asians who came to Canada long after anti-Asian immigration laws were repealed again??

All I'm saying is that Asian cultures are often very racist, sometimes with their own cultural groups as well (Western born Asians going to the "old country" to work often talk about locals not really grasping that they too can be foreign.)
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Old 08-02-2007, 10:01 AM
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Thats also reframing the word racist as a political term.

Its a subtle distinction made more so because its not one used by the average person in the average conversation.

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I am of the opinion that is very difficult for those ethnic groups who have been oppressed in the past to be racist. But that is my opinion. REMEMBER I SAID RACIST--NOT BIGOTTED... I do believe ANYONE CAN BE A BIGOT!!!

If I say some craziness that I hate another ethnic group outside my own, it will not may a dayum bit a difference on that entire ethnic group. I have little power to affect the bulk of people.

However, I have the ability to select someone or not for a job position based on physical features/factors, to me that is hatred and bigotry. Racism, provocative as it could be, just by that act, the young man has several offers!!!

For the US, it is the same as Michael Richards or Don Imus invoking the N-word. Although, they lost careers--temporarily--in a few years, they will be back where they want to be carefully manuvering through the fine line of racial division.

However, this incident make have taught us that we all must be vigilant for all people's human and civil rights. We cannot kid ourselves into fathoming that during these times of duress--for the U.S.--we need can all learn to love a little bit longer as well as stronger...
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:13 AM
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The judgement of one group versus another is morally reprehensible, especially if you call yourself certain things. How can we reach the BEYOND in humanity when we cannot communicate effectively?

Discernment and deference is key.
I'm sorry-WHAT? What does this have to do with their posts?
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