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07-31-2007, 11:58 AM
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Why did you post that here and not in the Iota forum? Better yet, why did you, an Omega, post it at all? Lastly, if it had been an Omega would you have posted it?
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07-31-2007, 12:26 PM
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Why did you post that here and not in the Iota forum? Better yet, why did you, an Omega, post it at all? Lastly, if it had been an Omega would you have posted it?
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If he was a Que, would I have posted it?--yeah. Where to post it? That's a call I made. It's not really an "Iota" story per se. That aspect is just a journalistic angle, I suppose. Maybe it should have gone in the general news section. Moreover, though, by posting something about someone in an organization is not necessarily casting aspersions on an organization. For every story about some Greek doing something good or ill, it can replicated in every group. One thing I was interested in doing was starting some dialogue about why the story was framed as it was. I originally saw this story on a Greek News website. This was the major reason why I put it here, esp. after I saw the threads about the TV show on the ABC Family Channel. That's more frivolous; this is more important as a way of possibly delving into issues about perceptions about Greek Life in the broader world.
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07-31-2007, 10:02 PM
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If he was a Que, would I have posted it?--yeah. Where to post it? That's a call I made. It's not really an "Iota" story per se. That aspect is just a journalistic angle, I suppose. Maybe it should have gone in the general news section. Moreover, though, by posting something about someone in an organization is not necessarily casting aspersions on an organization. For every story about some Greek doing something good or ill, it can replicated in every group. One thing I was interested in doing was starting some dialogue about why the story was framed as it was. I originally saw this story on a Greek News website. This was the major reason why I put it here, esp. after I saw the threads about the TV show on the ABC Family Channel. That's more frivolous; this is more important as a way of possibly delving into issues about perceptions about Greek Life in the broader world.
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Then why didn't you preface your post as such?
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08-01-2007, 12:15 AM
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Then why didn't you preface your post as such?
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I don't have to. This is a forum for all to speak to issues as they see fit. I prefer to just put the stories out there. I do this in this forum and others. I assume that the people here have critical thinking skills that they can employ. They may have other things to say according to their concerns and perspectives. That's what makes this forum interesting (and messy at times!).
Moreover, with the Internet there is a real democratization of information. No one has control over what's out here--no organization, person, pressure group, etc.As in scholarly circles, there is a real sense that there is a peer review process for whatever gets our there. If it's in the public domain, then it's futile to act as if one implicitly has special right to anything, even if it's about your organization. That's the blessing and bane of this medium.
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07-31-2007, 12:28 PM
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Why did you post that here and not in the Iota forum? Better yet, why did you, an Omega, post it at all? Lastly, if it had been an Omega would you have posted it?
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Woah now, I think this is a pretty big news story that could end up affecting ALL Greeks. I don't think it's inappropriate for him to post it in the general fourms. If the Iotas want to start their own discussion about it, they will. And if the Que didn't post it, someone else would have anyway. This isn't something that's going to end up hush-hush.
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07-31-2007, 09:54 PM
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Woah now, I think this is a pretty big news story that could end up affecting ALL Greeks.
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Really? How?
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07-31-2007, 10:11 PM
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Really? How?
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The point is, one's Greek affiliation shouldn't matter when posting news stories about Greeks.
And any time the word fraternity or sorority gets attached to someone who does or is suspected of doing something stupid, crazy, or violent, it affects the entire Greek community.
Also, multiquote function. It can be your friend. Click it on each post you want to reply to and then click post reply.
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08-01-2007, 01:14 AM
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Also, multiquote function. It can be your friend. Click it on each post you want to reply to and then click post reply.
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What are you talking about?
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08-01-2007, 01:15 AM
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The point is, one's Greek affiliation shouldn't matter when posting news stories about Greeks.
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Within the NPHC it does matter. That's the point you and others don't get.
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08-01-2007, 01:50 AM
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Within the NPHC it does matter. That's the point you and others don't get.
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how does it matter? The journalist/reporter reported the defendent's (sp) Greek affiliation not Wolfman
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08-01-2007, 07:33 AM
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how does it matter? The journalist/reporter reported the defendent's (sp) Greek affiliation not Wolfman
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I agree...
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08-01-2007, 12:15 PM
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Within the NPHC it does matter. That's the point you and others don't get.
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I know Iota is like the odd man out of the NPHC and I think that attitude is stupid. That said, the other NPHC members don't seem to agree with your stance which suggests it is YOUR stance, not the NPHC stance.
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08-01-2007, 12:52 PM
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Someone help me understand something. If he was on academic probation and sat out a year because of it, how is his gpa high enough to participate in any campus activity, much less be president of a chapter?
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07-31-2007, 12:42 PM
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Why did you post that here and not in the Iota forum? Better yet, why did you, an Omega, post it at all? Lastly, if it had been an Omega would you have posted it?
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He posted it here because it's something of interest to the greek community. It might have been better placed in the Risk Management forum, but I suppose this works, too.
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07-31-2007, 12:46 PM
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He posted it here because it's something of interest to the greek community. It might have been better placed in the Risk Management forum, but I suppose this works, too.
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It's not really RM, though, since it was a personal activity, not a chapter activity. Maybe N&P, but I really think it belongs right here.
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