Univesity of Texas at Arlington- Greek Life?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by alum

Is this a reason to go back to fall recruitment? Perhaps instead of following their instincts, the impressionable female freshmen listen to men saying ABC are wonderful,party-hardy girls while GHI are all sticks-in-the-mud and QQQ is composed of the overly-friendly girls.

At least with Spring Rush, they will have heard the stories, but if they're truely interested, they have time to check the groups out themselves, outside of formal rush, and form their own opinion.

[UGAalum94]

It just seems like it would be really hard at the scale that SEC rush occurs to do deferred recruitment. I know that some campuses manage and that the SEC schools aren't the only big Greek campuses. I guess you could do it over four weekends second semester if you wanted to.

(UGA involves 18 groups and 1200+ girls. They run buses to the houses and have to use most of the upper floor of the student center for Rho Chi group meetings, if they still do it like they used to. While you could figure out a way to do this while the rest of the students were around, it sure is easier to do it before they get back.)

And this is the main thing: I don't think it's really going to make a big difference. Most of the PNM hear tent talk and reputation talk anyway. It really isn't like a young woman is going to take a bid and then be horrified to learn the reputation of her group after the fact really.

You have to remember that groups who for whatever reason are below total are able to COB every year, so nobody's reputation is such a risk that if people knew they wouldn't join.

[adpiucf]

Spreading rumors or dirty laundry on the internet about a particular chapter is extremely damaging to a chapter that is struggling to overcome a poor local reputation.

Those rumors can be extremely damaging to the chapter that is attempting to bounce back and has spent countless hours working with one another, nationals, etc., and promoting the heck out of themselves IRL on their campus.

We don't need to advertise any one else's business. It undermines everything the sorority is doing locally to make itself better. Let the PNMs hear what they ever they like when they get to campus. But posting something on the internet about a specific chapter is effectively, broadcasting it to the whole world.

We jump all over negative PR about hazing or Greeks being highlighted in the news for bad behavior. We are essentially reinforcing the stereotypes by painting, "These sororities are the good ones, and these are the bad ones."

[banditone]

"I know that Tri-Delta at Oklahoma is a badass sorority. All the girls I have met in the past have been VERY impressive people."

See, now that's an example of something I'd say if someone asked on here about sorority's at OU. I still don't see the harm. Dirty laundry posts? I agree, they have no place here.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by banditone

"I know that Tri-Delta at Oklahoma is a badass sorority. All the girls I have met in the past have been VERY impressive people."

See, now that's an example of something I'd say if someone asked on here about sorority's at OU. I still don't see the harm. Dirty laundry posts? I agree, they have no place here.

Well, we have a great example in another thread right now where a young woman posted the good and the great groups as she sees it on her campus. She named thirteen out of 18.

As I've said before, I don't think it's worth spending a lot of energy on, but even having kind of a saying positive stuff is okay position could be more troublesome than you'd first think.

[ForeverRoses]

I don't mind guys posting about sororites as long as they don't mind if I voice my opinion about different fraternities. (caviat is that I would prefer the post to be something easily understood).

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I don't mind guys posting about sororites as long as they don't mind if I voice my opinion about different fraternities. (caviat is that I would prefer the post to be something easily understood).

Is this an Earp on AI comment or a "I don't want to read a lot of weirdly subjective rankings"?

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

Is this an Earp on AI comment or a "I don't want to read a lot of weirdly subjective rankings"?

Yes

[macallan25]

I think there is a huge difference between commenting on who is typically strong or weak at a campus as opposed to stereotyping the groups and spreading rumors, talking about their dirty laundry, etc.

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Spreading rumors or dirty laundry on the internet about a particular chapter is extremely damaging to a chapter that is struggling to overcome a poor local reputation.

Those rumors can be extremely damaging to the chapter that is attempting to bounce back and has spent countless hours working with one another, nationals, etc., and promoting the heck out of themselves IRL on their campus.

We don't need to advertise any one else's business. It undermines everything the sorority is doing locally to make itself better. Let the PNMs hear what they ever they like when they get to campus. But posting something on the internet about a specific chapter is effectively, broadcasting it to the whole world.

We jump all over negative PR about hazing or Greeks being highlighted in the news for bad behavior. We are essentially reinforcing the stereotypes by painting, "These sororities are the good ones, and these are the bad ones."

[UGAalum94]

I wonder if some of the difference in attitude depends on what kind of campus you are from. A campus where reputations change rapidly could really be affected by bad rumors or dirty laundry on GC or anywhere. But if you are from someplace where the changes are slow, it doesn't seem like that big a deal. People are going to hear what they hear, whatever. Girls will need to decide to take the bids they are offered or not. They don't really have free choice.

[SWTXBelle]

What would work (maybe?) is if pnm would be specific as to what they wish to know - i.e. Which sororities at ______________ are known for their socials? Which are the most active on campus? Which has the lowest g.p.a. requirement so even an idiot like me can get a bid?

This would never happen, of course.

[adpiucf]

Very true. Most people don't know anything about Greek Life, so they don't know even know what kinds of questions to ask. It seems natural that a teen seeking membership in an exclusive club on campus would ask, "Which one is the best?" They don't know any differently.

[UGAalum94]

Yep, so I think we should remember to try to be tolerant when they ask.

Now, I think there are jerks and weirdos on here who will ask and post stuff just to be offensive; we all know that.

But the less PNMs really know about Greek life, the more they actually need a source of information and will just need to be politely guided to the type of question that we think is helpful to answer.

A break down of chapters by average weight, not so much. A history of leadership on campus or socials, maybe?

(It seems like back in the day, we were limited in the number of socials we could have by Greek Life guidelines. Is that true?)