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07-24-2007, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ISUKappa
But he did. Instead of alerting the other Death Eaters as Harry & Co. were about to escape Malfoy's, he killed himself with the silver hand. Not exactly the most direct way of helping, but still...
I enjoyed the book even though I read quite a few of the spoilers and was aware of some of the inconsistencies. Cheesy as the epilogue was, it didn't bother me that much.
(cross-posted with AlethiaSi)
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OK- I totally missed that, oops. I'm rereading the book now so hopefully I'll pick that up the second time around.
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07-24-2007, 03:07 PM
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I think I'm remembering right, but I don't have the book handy. My memory, though, is that V puts a binding charm on Neville, then points up at the window in the tower. Glass from the window shatters and the hat flies down to V. V then says that in future, there will be no need for the sorting hat because there will be no houses -- Slytherin's name, crest and colors will be used by all. He places the hat on Neville's head, says something along the lines of "this is what will happen to those who defy me," and sets the hat on fire.
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right...Voldemort summoned the hat and then he Michael Jackson'ed Neville with the hat on!
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07-24-2007, 03:10 PM
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Dobby never died in the film...just not seen since...and ditto on the Hallows and Kreacher...I was saying that myself....anybody ever see that easter eggon the Two Towers DVD at the MTV awards when Smeagol calls Dobby out?
"Dobby's a F*cking FAAAAAGGGG!!"
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Sorry... wasn't quite clear. I shouldn't have said "again" in the spoiler. Of course, if folks only followed the movies, bringing house elves into the movie storyline again might be more trouble than its worth. (Sad, because Dobby in book 7 is pretty flipping significant.)
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07-24-2007, 03:12 PM
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right...Voldemort summoned the hat and then he Michael Jackson'ed Neville with the hat on!
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LOL.
Perhaps this gets at part of the reason that Neville could pull Gryffindor's sword from the hat even though the goblin had taken it -- Voldemort was threatening to effectively close Gryffindor House, and Gryffindor's sword and hat (which also held some of the thoughts of Ravenclaw and Hufflepuff) weren't putting up with that.
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07-24-2007, 04:02 PM
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Harry had 2 sons, so the middle names of the eiter of the boys could easily be Fred and Sirius.
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I was wondering what influence Ginny had on naming their children. I'd like to think that Lily's middle name is Fred. LOL
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07-24-2007, 04:34 PM
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The only thing was that I started bawling and I told my roommate (who hasn't read the book yet, she is re-reading book 6) that if I'm crying this hard at the book the movie is going to be gut-wrenching. Can you imagine the score that Hans Zimmer will do? Eek!
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Have they said something about Hans Zimmer doing the scores for movies 6 and/or 7? He didn't do scores for any of the first 5 movies.
(But he would do a very good score.)
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07-24-2007, 05:28 PM
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LOL...We're going to have to agree to disagree. There's a wealth of opportunity there, details to be added and expanded on. Just because you don't approve of what happened with Star Wars doesn't mean a prequel by JKR wouldn't be awesome  . It's a moot point anyway, because I doubt a prequel will ever happen. I can hope though!
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But it just wouldn't be the same. It's the same thing with a Hogwarts: The Next Generation sort of issue. The universe she writes in is fascinating, yes, but the only reason that this schoolchild is important is the battle between him and the Dark Lord. Harry's kids would only be famous because they're Harry's kids; his parents would only be more of the same. I would love to know more about them, but a book is not the way to go. Perhaps something like what Lemony Snicket has written about the Baudelaires after the end of their series of unfortunate events. (I highly recommend those books btw)
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But he did. Instead of alerting the other Death Eaters as Harry & Co. were about to escape Malfoy's, he killed himself with the silver hand. Not exactly the most direct way of helping, but still...
(cross-posted with AlethiaSi)
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Well he didn't MEAN to kill himself. His delay cost him his life, but he delayed due to the blood debt he owed Harry.
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I think I'm remembering right, but I don't have the book handy. My memory, though, is that V puts a binding charm on Neville, then points up at the window in the tower. Glass from the window shatters and the hat flies down to V. V then says that in future, there will be no need for the sorting hat because there will be no houses -- Slytherin's name, crest and colors will be used by all. He places the hat on Neville's head, says something along the lines of "this is what will happen to those who defy me," and sets the hat on fire.
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You're right on the actions and close enough on the words I'm sure. Accio was certainly the spell of choice in this book.
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07-24-2007, 05:57 PM
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Have they said something about Hans Zimmer doing the scores for movies 6 and/or 7? He didn't do scores for any of the first 5 movies.
(But he would do a very good score.)
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I don't know why I thought it was him.  Didn't John Williams do the first two movies? Either way, whoever the composer is, it's just going to make it gut wrenching
I do definately agree that he would do a very good score
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07-24-2007, 06:03 PM
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Okay so weird. I just got an email from gc with DST4A00 responding to Lady Pi Phi and I can't find it. Weird.
Either way, Lady Pi Phi had mentioned that the middle names of Harry's boys could be Fred or Sirius, I don't think James middle name was mentioned but the other one was Albus Severus. Harry explained that he was named after to "great" headmasters of Hogwarts. And I got all teary eyed and was like "ahh".
It makes you wonder if in the 19 years the reputation of Sytherin changed from a house that only produced wizards who practiced dark magic to something else?
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07-24-2007, 06:12 PM
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right...Voldemort summoned the hat and then he Michael Jackson'ed Neville with the hat on!
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07-24-2007, 06:20 PM
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Things I would have liked to have seen / found out:... Of those killed in the battle, did any of them ever become Hogwatrs ghosts (what are the requirements anyways?)
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I thought she was supposed to tell us why some people became ghosts and others didn't. It might have been explained in Harry's conversation with Grey Lady, but I didn't think it was very clear.
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07-24-2007, 06:21 PM
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Okay so weird. I just got an email from gc with DST4A00 responding to Lady Pi Phi and I can't find it. Weird.
Either way, Lady Pi Phi had mentioned that the middle names of Harry's boys could be Fred or Sirius, I don't think James middle name was mentioned but the other one was Albus Severus. Harry explained that he was named after to "great" headmasters of Hogwarts. And I got all teary eyed and was like "ahh".
It makes you wonder if in the 19 years the reputation of Sytherin changed from a house that only produced wizards who practiced dark magic to something else?
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Slytherin didn't necessarily produce wizards that practiced ...that's like intentionally producing villains....it's just that some of them were more...........suspect
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07-24-2007, 06:22 PM
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Did anyone get ages from the children? (Lily was underage, James was older, Albus is 11... didn't catch the other 2 children.)
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Albus Potter and Rose Weasley are the points of reference -- they are both leaving for their first year at Hogwarts, so they are each 11. (So is Scorpius Malfoy.) Lily Potter remarks that it will be 2 years before she can go to Hogwarts, so she is 9. James is older than Albus, though it doesn't say by how much. Ginny remarks, though, that "We wrote to James three times a week last year," which could imply that he is 12 and last year was his first year. It doesn't say how much younger than Rose Hugo is, but he seems to be around Lily's age.
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But he did. Instead of alerting the other Death Eaters as Harry & Co. were about to escape Malfoy's, he killed himself with the silver hand. Not exactly the most direct way of helping, but still...
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Well he didn't MEAN to kill himself. His delay cost him his life, but he delayed due to the blood debt he owed Harry.
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Right -- Wormtail's silver hand was cursed. Back in GoF, when Voldemort Wormtail was begging, Voldemort said: "Worthless and traitorous as you are, you helped me . . . and Lord Voldemort rewards his helpers . . . . "
But we all know that he never rewards without a catch. After he made the hand and Wormtail thanked him, Voldemort said, "May your loyalty never waver again, Wormtail." Wormtail answered, "No, my Lord . . . never, my Lord . . . ."
But, in the cellar at the Malfoy's, Wormtail showed a "tiny, merciful impulse" towards Harry, and in so doing, his loyalty to Voldemort did indeed waver. When that happened, "the silver tool that Voldemort had given his most cowardly servant" turned on Wormtail and strangled him.
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Accio was certainly the spell of choice in this book.
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That and Expelliarmus.
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I don't know why I thought it was him.  Didn't John Williams do the first two movies? Either way, whoever the composer is, it's just going to make it gut wrenching
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Yes, John Williams did the first two scores, including the major themes, like Hedwig's Theme. I'm not sure who has done the others.
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I thought she was supposed to tell us why some people became ghosts and others didn't. It might have been explained in Harry's conversation with Grey Lady, but I didn't think it was very clear.
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It was explained by Nearly Headless Nick at the end of OoP.
Did anyone think anything of the fact that Ron had a Muggle driver's license? I'm wondering if anything about their adult lives should be read into that.
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07-24-2007, 06:24 PM
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Neville pulled it out of the sorting hat. I don't know how he got it, but I know he pulled it out of the hat like Harry did in the chamber of secrets.
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I don't know if this has already been answered, but in CoS, Dumbeldore told Harry that only a true Gryfffindor could pull the sword out of the Sorting Hat. Neville proved himself a true Gryffindor.
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07-24-2007, 06:26 PM
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- I too wish she would elaborate on the occupations of the rest of Dumbledore's Army.
- I can't wait for this to become a movie!
- Neville Rocks!!!
- I was bawling when Dobby died (when they buried him in all the clothes),
- I bawled when Harry was walking toward his death and his mother was there (I got a thing for moms, especially lost ones).
- I loved the King's Cross chapter.
- I'm mad it was Fred, though glad Percy got some sense.
- I was wondering where the rest of the wizarding community was when these children were fighting for their lives.
- I personally would have disapparated to America to give me time to think.
I can't think of anything else. I'm going to re-read the book then re-read the books.
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