Answer to the Iota Theta Eta Question....

[FAMUDva]

My question to OP, why a GLO?

Why the following statement re:Can you be a member of a Divine 9 or other GLOS and become a member of Iota Theta Eta?

RE: Other orgs not allowing members to be memebers in other GLO- Chile, this AIN'T TRUE! I have Sorors that are members of other organizations... some on GC!

You say you don't consider yourself exclusive- In a previous FAQ, you said you MUST be a Christian, so that is exclusive, or am I missing something?

Reading this section of your FAQ had me puzzled SERIOUSLY... I'm not in the habit of making fun of anyone. I just don't understand why it's appropriate to validate your organization based on someone else's or other's organizations. I'm asking serious questions.

TIA for your kind response.

ETA: In respect of your end statement on the page, I removed exact copy paste to make my point.

[Kelouis75]

Originally Posted by FAMUDva

My question to OP, why a GLO?

Why the following statement re:Can you be a member of a Divine 9 or other GLOS and become a member of Iota Theta Eta?

RE: Other orgs not allowing members to be memebers in other GLO- Chile, this AIN'T TRUE! I have Sorors that are members of other organizations... some on GC!

You say you don't consider yourself exclusive- In a previous FAQ, you said you MUST be a Christian, so that is exclusive, or am I missing something?

Reading this section of your FAQ had me puzzled SERIOUSLY... I'm not in the habit of making fun of anyone. I just don't understand why it's appropriate to validate your organization based on someone else's or other's organizations. I'm asking serious questions.

TIA for your kind response.

ETA: In respect of your end statement on the page, I removed exact copy paste to make my point.

Hey FAMUDva:

I think you know I have real respect for you (and for other LHCF/D9 individuals). Deep respect. As you may know, I have acquaintances across the religious lines as well.

But in my personal experience-- a statement of faith is the exception-- not the rule to most GLOs. The way ITE has been ridiculed on GC is a sure example of that. I find that people love to make fun of Christians-- but don't let them dare say something about another group without the fear of not being called PC.

Anyway, Christ is the standard in my life. In Him, I live, I move and have my being. He is my everything. Some people think it's wierd, but I let them-- because I have a peace that can not be described. A peace that many people are still seeking... This is the reason I chose a CGLO and in particular ITE. These women have never had a bad word to say about anyone-- especially other sisters.

With ITE, a strong testiment of faith is the rule-- and I think it's going back to the roots of what some D9s were founded on. A strong faith in God and a strong desire to serve the community.

Unfortuately-- in my personal experience-- I have seen greeks come a far way from these virtues. With the only excuse being offered up "those were bad apples".

I know "bad" and "good" apples happen as groups get larger-- so this does not speak to certain individuals who make up the groups. But as a whole I've found these groups have been a hostile environment for people who want to take their faith to a deeper level. (ie the name calling-- wierdos, Bible thumpers were even used here on GC I believe)

However, with ITE it was different for me. Since we are small, and we require that our members be on one accord spiritually (with the Bible being our final authority) I think it really shapes the character of our group.

Never once do you see us say on the site that there are not other Christians out there. We merely say that we can only speak to what's going on within our organization. I think some people took these statements and blew them out of the water. Which, quite frankly, we expect some people would do. For those people, we just pray (Not out of malice, but with the love of Jesus in our hearts).

As I have stated b4 my Mom, Aunt and Father are 3 Christian people who pledged D9, that I know personally. That's just the tip. Others in our group, know and fellowship with Christians in other sororities. In fact, that's how we found out about the drama-- A Christian sister outside of our sorority informed us.

Our only criteria is that our members must profess a TRUE devotion to God. With other sororities invisible lines about how you look, how much money you have, what kind of clothes you wear, who's your mama, who's your mama's mama, etc-- are the demarcations. It's sad but in many respects it's still true. Hey, I'm just being real and if people want to be mad at me, well they'll just be mad. With Christians--it should not be that way.

Our one criteria-- truly wanting to please God-- is crucial to our core mission and values. As you know, the Bible states there are "wheat and weeds" in the church. Ones who truly seek to please God and honor Him in every area of their lives are the wheat.

This does not mean "wheat" won't make mistakes, it just means that when they do-- they acknowlege them AND they seek to stop making the same ones repeatedly.

As some people mentioned, there is history between the "church" and BGLOs. A lot of what is on our website speaks from the Holy Spirit to that discussion. (some of y'all may not get that-- and it's okay) It's not a matter of validating our group. Our relationship with God has already done that for us...

If people are outside of those two BGLO or BC, people will not be familiar with this ongoing discussion between the groups.

We're not here to defend ourselves, just here to answer sincere questions. 'Cause frankly we'll just continue doing what we feel lead to do.

Now that I've written you a tome LOL--- HTH & thanks for your sincerity.

With kind regards

[SWTXBelle]

It's nice that you have updated your information on your website - but to state that omicron means "small" is to miss the point that omicron does not MEAN small - the name for the greek letter is derived from the latin for "small o" in contrast to omega (which is a larger O).
The word "omicron" MEANS a letter in the greek alphabet. It is not the "obvious" choice - it is the correct one.
Perhaps your ministry should consider another name, given the fact that you wish to set yourselves apart from the GLOs who exist. Maybe use your "D.I.V.A." - you would have to ignore the origin of the word "diva", though.
I sincerely think that if you did that, you would not have to spend time explaining what you are NOT and can concentrate on what you ARE - and thus would avoid the need to insult GLO.

[Kelouis75]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

It's nice that you have updated your information on your website - but to state that omicron means "small" is to miss the point that omicron does not MEAN small - the name for the greek letter is derived from the latin for "small o" in contrast to omega (which is a larger O).
The word "omicron" MEANS a letter in the greek alphabet. It is not the "obvious" choice - it is the correct one.
Perhaps your ministry should consider another name, given the fact that you wish to set yourselves apart from the GLOs who exist.

Huh?? Is it really that serious?? I didn't know about any updates, but I pray that the peace of the Lord is with you, and that you and your org accomplishes your mission just as we have set to accomplish ITE's.

Take care.

[SWTXBelle]

Go look on the website. There is now an expanded discussion of why omicron is used instead of omega. It is inaccurate, and I sincerely thought you would want to know, rather than come across as ignorant of the greek alphabet when you chose to use it. My bad, as they say. For someone who is not here to defend your group you are certainly defensive.
I am sure Gamma Phi's 130,000 members appreciate your concern. But please don't play the condescending "parting shot" card. It makes you look petty and "omicron", oh, I mean small.

[Kelouis75]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Go look on the website. There is now an expanded discussion of why omicron is used instead of omega. It is inaccurate, and I sincerely thought you would want to know, rather than come across as ignorant of the greek alphabet when you chose to use it. My bad, as they say. For someone who is not here to defend your group you are certainly defensive.
I am sure Gamma Phi's 130,000 members appreciate your concern. But please don't play the condescending "parting shot" card. It makes you look petty and "omicron", oh, I mean small.

Honestly I don't mean to be condescending and frankly I don't care how large your group is. My main concern was for you-- as an individual. Thanks for taking the time to look at our site.

Regards.

[ForeverRoses]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Go look on the website. There is now an expanded discussion of why omicron is used instead of omega. It is inaccurate, and I sincerely thought you would want to know, rather than come across as ignorant of the greek alphabet when you chose to use it. My bad, as they say. For someone who is not here to defend your group you are certainly defensive.
I am sure Gamma Phi's 130,000 members appreciate your concern. But please don't play the condescending "parting shot" card. It makes you look petty and "omicron", oh, I mean small.

So does that mean that all of us Alpha Omicron Pi's should start calling ourselves Alpha-Small-Pi's?

Sorry I couldn't resist.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by Kelouis75

Huh?? Is it really that serious?? I didn't know about any updates, but I pray that the peace of the Lord is with you, and that you and your org accomplishes your mission just as we have set to accomplish ITE's.

Take care.

You know you and your fellow ITE (and fellow non-ITE) members have been very condescending to the members here on GC.

The main discussion on ITE was the fact that your use of the Greek Alphabet was incorrect, that you used the acronym "DIVAs" but are obviously unaware of what "diva" actually means. The fact is you coming here isn't helping to extinguish the discussion on ITE, in fact, its changing people's opinion. I, for one, didn't really 'care' (for the lack of a better word) of how you all ran your sorority. But you all came on to this site, attacked people's beliefs, said you all wanted "support" all with a condescending tone.

Don't like what we have to say on GC....tough noogies--its a darn internet site.

Never once do you see us say on the site that there are not other Christians out there.

Ahh but Roz (or whatever her name is) did in fact say she had not seen ---since she joined in April---anyone proclaim their faith. In fact she went as far as to say that we are "afraid."

We're not here to defend ourselves, just here to answer sincere questions. 'Cause frankly we'll just continue doing what we feel lead to do.

Obviously you are all here to defend yourself. How about you take your own advice, continue to do what your feel lead to do...cause frankly just cause you all came on here doesn't mean we will stop talking.

[Kelouis75]

Originally Posted by epchick

You know you and your fellow ITE (and fellow non-ITE) members have been very condescending to the members here on GC.

The main discussion on ITE was the fact that your use of the Greek Alphabet was incorrect, that you used the acronym "DIVAs" but are obviously unaware of what "diva" actually means. The fact is you coming here isn't helping to extinguish the discussion on ITE, in fact, its changing people's opinion. I, for one, didn't really 'care' (for the lack of a better word) of how you all ran your sorority. But you all came on to this site, attacked people's beliefs, said you all wanted "support" all with a condescending tone.

Don't like what we have to say on GC....tough noogies--its a darn internet site.



Ahh but Roz (or whatever her name is) did in fact say she had not seen ---since she joined in April---anyone proclaim their faith. In fact she went as far as to say that we are "afraid."



Obviously you are all here to defend yourself. How about you take your own advice, continue to do what your feel lead to do...cause frankly just cause you all came on here doesn't mean we will stop talking.

Actually, I was here to talk to an online acquaintance-- and to peruse the rest of the site. Please see my response directly to FAMUDva. I did not mention any you in it. Just because I'm not impressed by your numbers-- you have taken offense.

Please feel free to keep talking (I've never claimed to be the knower and keeper of the greek alphabet). LOL... but directing your comments towards me will be fruitless.

Thanks for your concern about the Greek alphabet and about our group...
Its truly heartwarming to see and feel the love. LOL

[rhoetagamma]

Originally Posted by epchick

Ahh but Roz (or whatever her name is) did in fact say she had not seen ---since she joined in April---anyone proclaim their faith. In fact she went as far as to say that we are "afraid."

I don't believe Roz is in ITE.

[FAMUDva]

Originally Posted by Kelouis75

Hey FAMUDva:

I think you know I have real respect for you (and for other LHCF/D9 individuals). Deep respect. As you may know, I have acquaintances across the religious lines as well.

But in my personal experience-- a statement of faith is the exception-- not the rule to most GLOs. The way ITE has been ridiculed on GC is a sure example of that. I find that people love to make fun of Christians-- but don't let them dare say something about another group without the fear of not being called PC.

Anyway, Christ is the standard in my life. In Him, I live, I move and have my being. He is my everything. Some people think it's wierd, but I let them-- because I have a peace that can not be described. A peace that many people are still seeking... This is the reason I chose a CGLO and in particular ITE. These women have never had a bad word to say about anyone-- especially other sisters.

With ITE, a strong testiment of faith is the rule-- and I think it's going back to the roots of what some D9s were founded on. A strong faith in God and a strong desire to serve the community.

Unfortuately-- in my personal experience-- I have seen greeks come a far way from these virtues. With the only excuse being offered up "those were bad apples".

I know "bad" and "good" apples happen as groups get larger-- so this does not speak to certain individuals who make up the groups. But as a whole I've found these groups have been a hostile environment for people who want to take their faith to a deeper level. (ie the name calling-- wierdos, Bible thumpers were even used here on GC I believe)

However, with ITE it was different for me. Since we are small, and we require that our members be on one accord spiritually (with the Bible being our final authority) I think it really shapes the character of our group.

Never once do you see us say on the site that there are not other Christians out there. We merely say that we can only speak to what's going on within our organization. I think some people took these statements and blew them out of the water. Which, quite frankly, we expect some people would do. For those people, we just pray (Not out of malice, but with the love of Jesus in our hearts).

As I have stated b4 my Mom, Aunt and Father are 3 Christian people who pledged D9, that I know personally. That's just the tip. Others in our group, know and fellowship with Christians in other sororities. In fact, that's how we found out about the drama-- A Christian sister outside of our sorority informed us.

Our only criteria is that our members must profess a TRUE devotion to God. With other sororities invisible lines about how you look, how much money you have, what kind of clothes you wear, who's your mama, who's your mama's mama, etc-- are the demarcations. It's sad but in many respects it's still true. Hey, I'm just being real and if people want to be mad at me, well they'll just be mad. With Christians--it should not be that way.

Our one criteria-- truly wanting to please God-- is crucial to our core mission and values. As you know, the Bible states there are "wheat and weeds" in the church. Ones who truly seek to please God and honor Him in every area of their lives are the wheat.

This does not mean "wheat" won't make mistakes, it just means that when they do-- they acknowlege them AND they seek to stop making the same ones repeatedly.

As some people mentioned, there is history between the "church" and BGLOs. A lot of what is on our website speaks from the Holy Spirit to that discussion. (some of y'all may not get that-- and it's okay) It's not a matter of validating our group. Our relationship with God has already done that for us...

If people are outside of those two BGLO or BC, people will not be familiar with this ongoing discussion between the groups.

We're not here to defend ourselves, just here to answer sincere questions. 'Cause frankly we'll just continue doing what we feel lead to do.

Now that I've written you a tome LOL--- HTH & thanks for your sincerity.

With kind regards

Thank you for your indepth answer Kelouis! I really appreciate you answering me honestly.

[Kelouis75]

Originally Posted by FAMUDva

Thank you for your indepth answer Kelouis! I really appreciate you answering me honestly.

Sure thanks for asking with respect. I'm happy to "talk" with you anytime. God bless!

[AlphaFrog]

Can we just say AMEN to this thread and let it be over with.

Dies iræ! dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Dona eis requiem. Amen.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Can we just say AMEN to this thread and let it be over with.

Dies iræ! dies illa
Solvet sæclum in favilla
Dona eis requiem. Amen.

That will be stuck in my head now, thanks.

Love me some Latin.

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Can we just say AMEN to this thread and let it be over with.

May the Lord watch
Between me and thee
While we are absent
One from another
AMEN!