Answer to the Iota Theta Eta Question....

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

I simply said that I had not seen anyone besides me do it -- and at the time I wrote the post, it was true. I did not make a blanket statement and say that nobody had ever done it. Please re-read the post in question.

I did re-read it. You not only said that you had never seen anyone besides you do it, you said "If there are other believers here, they are afraid to take a righteous stand." That's a pretty blanket statement in my book.

[RozRochelle]

Taken out of context, which is what you have done, yes that quote does look incriminating. However, the comment was made based on me having not ever seen - and therefore not knowing - that there were other Christ-professing people on the boards. That was the context in which I was writing.

Now I do see that there are other Christ-confessing people on GC, and that's great. But as far as the "righteous stand" comment I made, now I raise this observation and question... You all (GC Christians) came out (and diverted the focus of this thread) to publicly take me to task for what I wrote, but how many of you have offered public support and encouragement to the original poster and her sorority?

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I did re-read it. You not only said that you had never seen anyone besides you do it, you said "If there are other believers here, they are afraid to take a righteous stand." That's a pretty blanket statement in my book.

[pinkies up]

Support for what?? What you want us to do? Invite them to Stomp Fest?

[tld221]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

This is dumb.

my soror, my soror. speaketh ye truth.

[RozRochelle]

Those of us who are Christians are one in the Body of Christ, despite our different approaches, and we have a responsibility to support and uphold one another, especially when one of us comes under attack as ITE did. Whom among us believers - besides me and the OP's sorors - have come on here and offered ITE public support and encouragement in the face of the ridicule and mockery they have received?

But how many believers were quick to jump down my throat for what I said in my response to the OP -- yet ignoring the topic of the thread? Even an admitted non-believer has been more positive than ITE's fellow GC Christians. If I am wrong, show me, I will gladly admit it.

ITE doesn't have to get an invite to Stomp Fest (whatever that is, if it's even a real event), but some kind of encouragement from other Christians would be nice, and I'm sure appreciated. As a whole, I feel GC's Christians have left their sisters in Christ blowing in the wind. That is not the way of our Lord when it comes to His people.

Originally Posted by pinkies up

Support for what?? What you want us to do? Invite them to Stomp Fest?

[AKA_Monet]

1. A website does NOT make or break a SORORITY.

Although quite "pretty", the story and font basis of the sorority's website is lost in the discussion, which made it too confusing. Moreover, I have to read font from non-contrasting colors that causes me to squint.

Well, I surf to more important websites related to my career, I do not feel like reading all that information I could not get it in 2-4 bullet points.

2. People do not care what your confession of faith is. Most of us are under the United States constitution and believe in freedom of religion. That includes those who are decidedly atheists. That does not constitute YOUR judgement.

3. An organization's legitimacy CANNOT be predicated and relayed to others by only YOUR epistemologies. You may convince SOME individuals to join, but it seems the organizations that are lasting are about the true meaning of Christ's mission and Church.

How much are you willing to sacrifice for Christ? Your life?

[epchick]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

...but some kind of encouragement from other Christians would be nice, and I'm sure appreciated. As a whole, I feel GC's Christians have left their sisters in Christ blowing in the wind. That is not the way of our Lord when it comes to His people.

Wow, i guess i must have missed that part of scripture...

Is it essential to the life of ITE that you get GC support?

And i just gotta jump on the bandwagon--I wasn't aware that I had to proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and personal Savior in a forum for fraternity and sorority organizations.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by epchick

I wasn't aware that I had to proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and personal Savior in a forum for fraternity and sorority organizations.

And don't forget the part where we also have to support an organization that judges other sororities on its national website while also admitting to know nothing about them. I guess I'm missing that page of the Bible...?

[RozRochelle]

I just want to make it clear that I'm not a member of ITE. But, as they are Christians, they are my sisters in Christ and that's why I'm speaking up.

Is it essential to them to have GC support? In my non-ITE opinion, I hope not. But, also in my opinion, I think it would have been nice if other Christians on GC had shown them some support, especially since they were being ridiculed primarily on the basis of their Christian beliefs.

I'm not addressing the rest of what you wrote.

Originally Posted by epchick

Wow, i guess i must have missed that part of scripture...

Is it essential to the life of ITE that you get GC support?

And i just gotta jump on the bandwagon--I wasn't aware that I had to proclaim that Jesus Christ is my Lord and personal Savior in a forum for fraternity and sorority organizations.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

I just want to make it clear that I'm not a member of ITE. But, as they are Christians, they are my sisters in Christ and that's why I'm speaking up.

Is it essential to them to have GC support? In my non-ITE opinion, I hope not. But, also in my opinion, I think it would have been nice if other Christians on GC had shown them some support, especially since they were being ridiculed primarily on the basis of their Christian beliefs.

I'm not addressing the rest of what you wrote.

One's religion does not mean that one is right in what one does.
Doing something in the name of one's religion or one's God does not mean that one is right in what one does.
Doing the right thing is doing something for God.

No one was ridiculing them based on their Christian beliefs, but on their poor use of Greek, their insulting attitude toward other sororities and yes, that the entire sorority from improper Greek letters (TWICE) to the pledging process was divinely inspired. Even then, most people said that if it worked for them, so be it, but thankfully God gave us the ability to think that something is weird as hell.

I am not honor bound as a Christian to support another Christian regardless of her actions. I do not support priests who molest children, preachers who have affairs and do drugs, or Christians who forget Jesus' lessons on humility. If God had wanted sheep he wouldn't have given us free will.

(And if you've missed the many discussions about religion on here, you aren't looking. Don't open your mouth and claim things like you did if you don't educate yourself first. )

[LPIDelta]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

But how many believers were quick to jump down my throat for what I said in my response to the OP -- yet ignoring the topic of the thread? Even an admitted non-believer has been more positive than ITE's fellow GC Christians. If I am wrong, show me, I will gladly admit it.

I'll admit that I saw the original thread and that I thought about saying something as a Christian--but I have learned that people on this board are going to do whatever they want (its a public board, why not?), and sometimes they will pick just for the sake of picking. I come here to talk about Greek life, not spirituality. It really doesn't change any minds engaging in back and forth on most issues on an internet chat board, especially this one, because most of the players are skilled at taking your words apart and finding discrepancies (really, some of these GCers should be lawyers and detectives!)

Sometimes not getting involved at all is the higher road. Save yourself the heartburn and walk away from this argument--it won't work.

[RozRochelle]

Non-involvement is not the high road for a Christian when other Christians are under attack. It's the coward's road. Maybe some Christians can hide Jesus in a box, only to bring him out at the "appropriate" time and place, but that's not what the bible says to do.

My support for and defense of my sisters in Christ, Iota Theta Eta, is on record. I've raised some questions and said what I had to say, and I'm done.

Originally Posted by Heather17

I'll admit that I saw the original thread and that I thought about saying something as a Christian--but I have learned that people on this board are going to do whatever they want (its a public board, why not?), and sometimes they will pick just for the sake of picking. I come here to talk about Greek life, not spirituality. It really doesn't change any minds engaging in back and forth on most issues on an internet chat board, especially this one, because most of the players are skilled at taking your words apart and finding discrepancies (really, some of these GCers should be lawyers and detectives!)

Sometimes not getting involved at all is the higher road. Save yourself the heartburn and walk away from this argument--it won't work.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

Non-involvement is not the high road for a Christian when other Christians are under attack. It's the coward's road. Maybe some Christians can hide Jesus in a box, only to bring him out at the "appropriate" time and place, but that's not what the bible says to do.

My support for and defense of my sisters in Christ, Iota Theta Eta, is on record. I've raised some questions and said what I had to say, and I'm done.

I doubt that. But in all seriousness, do you believe that a Christian must support anothers actions just because the other person is also Christian?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

Non-involvement is not the high road for a Christian when other Christians are under attack. It's the coward's road.

If the Christians are being attacked for being faithful Christians, I would agree with you. In this discussion, I have not seen anyone attacked at all, much less attacked for being Christian.

I have seen, and have myself given, some criticism for specific comments that came across as Christian in name but not Christian in spirit.

[LPIDelta]

Originally Posted by RozRochelle

Non-involvement is not the high road for a Christian when other Christians are under attack. It's the coward's road. Maybe some Christians can hide Jesus in a box, only to bring him out at the "appropriate" time and place, but that's not what the bible says to do.

You're calling me a coward? Nice. I don't think its Christian to be so judgmental of someone you don't know--especially someone who was trying to be nice and helpful. Jesus certainly did not judge, and being judgmental is definitely not what the Bible says to do.

Why is it that some Christians think they are "more Christian" that others just because they may pray more or go to church more or join a club? Or in this case, because they want to start internet fights that will go nowhere? Isn't being a Christian about believing in Jesus and trying to live according to his lessons?