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Old 07-10-2007, 12:07 PM
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OK, the one I've got issue with is the Orson Welles example...

Orson Welles got screwed over big time by the studios (which were run by MEN). His risk taking behavior definitely did not cease after Citizen Kane's release...google "It's All True" if you want confirmation. If his creativity seemed to dim, it wasn't because he wanted to do so...it was because he had to eat.

I know this is a weird one to pick out, but it just shows me that this guy didn't do his research.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:20 PM
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Orson Welles got screwed over big time by the studios (which were run by MEN). His risk taking behavior definitely did not cease after Citizen Kane's release...google "It's All True" if you want confirmation.
You're unnecessarily conflating terms here - his assertion wasn't that Welles got rich from Citizen Kane, it's that it was the height of his creative processes and the best example of risk-taking behavior. The fact he got dicked over actually doesn't hurt this assertion. Remember, he doesn't say risk-taking ends - but rather that it is most prevalent in your 20's and fades a bit after.

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If his creativity seemed to dim, it wasn't because he wanted to do so...it was because he had to eat.
First off, there's a causation/correlation problem here, but w/e.

However, this is kind of his point - he's stating that staying solvent is an old man's game. Chasing pipe dreams is a young man's game, for the most part.

I'm not sure his research is that bad, given my understanding of his assertions, but I'm no expert on Welles on the whole.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:54 PM
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You're unnecessarily conflating terms here - his assertion wasn't that Welles got rich from Citizen Kane, it's that it was the height of his creative processes and the best example of risk-taking behavior. The fact he got dicked over actually doesn't hurt this assertion. Remember, he doesn't say risk-taking ends - but rather that it is most prevalent in your 20's and fades a bit after.
My point is that CK wasn't necessarily the height of his creative processes or risk-taking - several of his films were taken from his control by the studio and extensively cut. The original negatives - not prints - so we can't definitively say CK is the greatest, "riskiest" movie he ever made as his other films weren't seen the way he made them. IAT touched on a lot of racial taboos which is why much of the footage was destroyed.

I know I'm geeking out on this one, but Orson is my man

And as far as the Paul McCartney reference - I don't think you can compare work done with a group to work done solo. Not only that, "hit song" doesn't always equal "good song."
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:26 PM
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I kinda found the whole thing kinda "skimmed" over the reasons behind the claims.
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:35 PM
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And as far as the Paul McCartney reference - I don't think you can compare work done with a group to work done solo. Not only that, "hit song" doesn't always equal "good song."
so so true.
for example

she bangs-ricky martin.
ay bay bay-dont care whose song this is.
that song by paris hilton.
mambo #5-lou bega

shall i continue?
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Old 07-10-2007, 02:11 PM
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As I've gotten older, I've shifted from blondes to girls with much darker features. I've seen the same thing with my friends. Blondes are fun, but...trashy. I've also started dating girls with curves...so you know girls that are a size 2 instead of a size 0. OK OK I'm messing around now, but most guys I know want to marry brunettes.

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Old 07-10-2007, 02:35 PM
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As I've gotten older, I've shifted from blondes to girls with much darker features. I've seen the same thing with my friends. Blondes are fun, but...trashy. I've also started dating girls with curves...so you know girls that are a size 2 instead of a size 0. OK OK I'm messing around now, but most guys I know want to marry brunettes.

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Old 07-10-2007, 03:40 PM
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I disagree, though I have nothing against brunettes
Thats good because i'm willing to bet that at least 1/3 of the blondes you know are actually brunettes.

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Old 07-11-2007, 11:16 PM
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...but most guys I know want to marry brunettes.
I did, so you must be right.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:28 PM
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OK, the one I've got issue with is the Orson Welles example...

Orson Welles got screwed over big time by the studios (which were run by MEN). His risk taking behavior definitely did not cease after Citizen Kane's release...google "It's All True" if you want confirmation. If his creativity seemed to dim, it wasn't because he wanted to do so...it was because he had to eat.

I know this is a weird one to pick out, but it just shows me that this guy didn't do his research.
I agree that it wasn't a good example. That assertation makes sense we're probably wired that way especially if you weren't likely to live past 35.
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Old 07-10-2007, 12:45 PM
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ok some of this is hooey

1. Men like blond bombshells (and women want to look like them)

I disagree with the first part...if I ever see another dark skinned woman and the difference beytween here and midnight is 11:59 and she has a platinum colored weave in her head.....siiiiiiigh....

the second part...some of u need to stop letting western culture influence u

2. Humans are naturally polygamous

we get it from animals...hehehe

3. Most women benefit from polygyny, while most men benefit from monogamy
but who would enjoy it more?

4. Most suicide bombers are Muslim


I find especially funny...

'The surprising answer is that Muslim suicide bombing has nothing to do with Islam or the Quran (except for two lines). It has a lot to do with sex, or, in this case, the absence of sex. What distinguishes Islam from other major religions is that it tolerates polygyny'

I heard of blowing your load but dayum.....and did anyone catch the grammtical error in the passage also

5. Having sons reduces the likelihood of divorce

maybe in China



7. What Bill Gates and Paul McCartney have in common with criminals

ok...now we are reaching


8. The midlife crisis is a myth—sort of

errrmm...just shake ur head and move along people
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Old 07-10-2007, 01:33 PM
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the second part...some of u need to stop letting western culture influence u
that is true...but look at how much of the western culture has influenced all the others...the Kenya barbie looks just like the Hispanic one, the Asian one, the White one. same shape, different skin tone. i remember when i was little my aunt went and bought me a black barbie doll because the one i had was white. hell, we were so broke she could have been purple. i didnt care!

i strive to teach my daughter that there is nothing wrong with being pretty. or smart. i also strive to teach her that beauty is in so many shapes and sizes, that the term "bombshell" shouldnt even have the word blonde in front of it! i get tired of her being told she is pretty all the time, although she is a beautiful child (im a bit biased, but still...) and the focus should be on her intelligence, which thank the lord she has as well...
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