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07-06-2007, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst
For the same reason as 99% of all the other threads here on Greekchat:
TO ENGAGE IN DIALOGUE!!!
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i think that number is closer to 55%. The other 45% are completely pointless.
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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst
OMG, I can't believe what we as a people have degenerated into. We would sooner have multi-page threads on who will win American Idol or America's Next Top Model or who will be the 2007 step show champs of the world (or the fictional bogus Willie Lynch letter) rather than something that will have a direct and permanent impact on our very lives and the way we live it.
Our priorities are seriously twisted. *SMH*
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"we as a people"? wow, that a pretty lofty generalization from a thread that has replies from 7 people other than you and i in a nation where over 300 million people live.
anywho, i would think that since you seem to be so enthused by this cause that you would have replied to my questions with an emphatic "YES!!" on all fronts, and would provide at least suggestions on how we as a people can help. sometimes, RM, you have to really convince people that something is going to negatively impact their well being. sometimes, you have to make it plainer than day. it's quite possible that no one feels they're educated enough on the issue to effectively comment. or, they may not care. of the leaps that were made, single currency to losing civil rights to the Rapture, may be too much for folks. *shrug*
i see that you think this is a civil rights issue. i get that. but just because the Constitution ceases to exist doesn't necessarily mean that slavery or denying women the right to vote, for examples, are held as good ideas of something we should go back to. i venture to say that there's a minority of people who think these are good ideas. so it's quite possible that this may not be a bad thing. it may not be a good thing, either, but until folks are properly educated (if we're properly educated) we may never know.
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07-06-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst
i think that number is closer to 55%. The other 45% are completely pointless.
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True, but it's still to engage in dialogue, pointless dialogue, but dialogue nonetheless.
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"we as a people"? wow, that a pretty lofty generalization from a thread that has replies from 7 people other than you and i in a nation where over 300 million people live.
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I was speaking more on Greekchat in general, not as a nation as a whole, but just for grins and giggles, how much have you heard about this issue before I mentioned it today? Did any of your friends mention this? Relatives? Co-workers? How about through the media? Big Three networks? CNN? Fox News? NPR? BBC? Yes, it was a lofty generalization, but for few people to mention it--and word does get around, especially on the Internet at least hints my assertion has some degree of validity. I am hard pressed to believe that for an event as potentially phenominal as this in an age where information is literally at your fingertips, that more people aren't talking about it. They certainly talked about Paris Hilton getting a slap on the wrist en masse (ps: BUCK A PARIS HILTON!!)  But I digress...
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anywho, i would think that since you seem to be so enthused by this cause that you would have replied to my questions with an emphatic "YES!!" on all fronts, and would provide at least suggestions on how we as a people can help. sometimes, RM, you have to really convince people that something is going to negatively impact their well being. sometimes, you have to make it plainer than day. it's quite possible that no one feels they're educated enough on the issue to effectively comment. or, they may not care. of the leaps that were made, single currency to losing civil rights to the Rapture, may be too much for folks. *shrug*
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Good paragraph, good points. Very good points. Hence perhaps that's why the signs are so subtle; if everything was to come together at once, the public reaction and backlash would be too great. Hence, the potential negative impact isn't going to be plainer than day. You have to pay attention and watch the signs. Too much presented too soon can make for a very volatile climate.
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i see that you think this is a civil rights issue. i get that. but just because the Constitution ceases to exist doesn't necessarily mean that slavery or denying women the right to vote, for examples, are held as good ideas of something we should go back to. i venture to say that there's a minority of people who think these are good ideas. so it's quite possible that this may not be a bad thing. it may not be a good thing, either, but until folks are properly educated (if we're properly educated) we may never know.
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I see what you're saying, but understand that I am not necessarily indicating that these things will happen (new slavery, denying women to vote, etc.). I am merely indicating that with the new government, there comes new legislation, which raises the possibility of such to occur. One thing I am almost certain of is that our basic Constitutional rights will be done away with, as it is slowly being undermined as we speak.
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07-06-2007, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst
I was speaking more on Greekchat in general, not as a nation as a whole, but just for grins and giggles, how much have you heard about this issue before I mentioned it today? Did any of your friends mention this? Relatives? Co-workers? How about through the media? Big Three networks? CNN? Fox News? NPR? BBC? Yes, it was a lofty generalization, but for few people to mention it--and word does get around, especially on the Internet at least hints my assertion has some degree of validity. I am hard pressed to believe that for an event as potentially phenominal as this in an age where information is literally at your fingertips, that more people aren't talking about it. They certainly talked about Paris Hilton getting a slap on the wrist en masse (ps: BUCK A PARIS HILTON!!)  But I digress...
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since we're talking grins & giggles, no, until you mentioned it, i hadn't heard of this. and i cant say that anyone i know has heard of it either. i definitely did NOT, and do not, expect to hear about it via the media. "fair and balanced" the media is not. and, compared to how many articles there are on ms. hilton et al, and eddie & his issues, there's not much on the internet, either. i do, however, think i have found WHY the public hasn't heard much about this:
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http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15017[/url]]
If President Bush had run openly in 2004 on the proposition that a prime objective of his second term was to form the North American Union and to supplant the dollar with the “Amero,” we doubt very much that President Bush would have carried Ohio, let alone half of the Red State majority he needed to win re-election. Pursuing any plan that would legalize the conservatively estimated 12 million illegal aliens now in the United States could well spell election disaster for the Republican Party in 2006, especially for the House of Representative where every seat is up for grabs.
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But then, that comes from a conservative view.
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Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst
I see what you're saying, but understand that I am not necessarily indicating that these things will happen (new slavery, denying women to vote, etc.). I am merely indicating that with the new government, there comes new legislation, which raises the possibility of such to occur. One thing I am almost certain of is that our basic Constitutional rights will be done away with, as it is slowly being undermined as we speak.
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I'll agree to this. Way to back pedal.  Your "we will" statements seemed to indicate that you were sure we were doomed. maybe i misread.
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However, since I have yet to see a credible current source, I think this whole thread is moot.
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a recent, albeit "anti" site on this topic: http://www.amerocurrency.com/index.html
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