Too fat to recruit: or, DePauw, the Sequel

Leslie Anne · #1 06-25-2007, 07:03 PM

I think it's horrible to hide any sister from Recruitment regardless of their shortcomings. I've always felt, and perhaps I'm wrong, that one of the purposes of being a member of a sorority is to learn to be your personal best. If a sister lacks conversational skills, study skills, personal grooming, then help her to improve. Don't pretend she doesn't exist!

The only time I can truly understand the big push for numbers in a chapter is when they need the income to support the maintenance of the house. Otherwise, I think it's ridiculous. Fraternities manage to stay afloat without large numbers. Why can't sororities?

I can't help but think how far we've come from the original purposes that our founders had in mind. Do any of the 26 NPCs mention appearance in their Purpose or Creed? I don't think so. Our founders' had loftier ideals. I wish we could find some way to make Recruitment less shallow. I'd imagine that our founders would roll over in their graves if they knew that a sister was hidden because she was fat. For shame!

UGAalum94 · #2 06-25-2007, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

I think it's horrible to hide any sister from Recruitment regardless of their shortcomings. I've always felt, and perhaps I'm wrong, that one of the purposes of being a member of a sorority is to learn to be your personal best. If a sister lacks conversational skills, study skills, personal grooming, then help her to improve. Don't pretend she doesn't exist!

The only time I can truly understand the big push for numbers in a chapter is when they need the income to support the maintenance of the house. Otherwise, I think it's ridiculous. Fraternities manage to stay afloat without large numbers. Why can't sororities?

I can't help but think how far we've come from the original purposes that our founders had in mind. Do any of the 26 NPCs mention appearance in their Purpose or Creed? I don't think so. Our founders' had loftier ideals. I wish we could find some way to make Recruitment less shallow. I'd imagine that our founders would roll over in their graves if they knew that a sister was hidden because she was fat. For shame!

I hear what you are saying, but many groups have policies that instruct (and pressure) chapters to recruit to quota and chapter total. It's not what the founders had in mind, but it seems to be where we are today.

I too wonder if having women's groups be more like the IFC might not be more empowering to genuine sisterhood, but NPC recruitment IS different and creates different expectations for the chapters. A NPC chapter doesn't usually have the option to play by its own rules and be viable.

Leslie Anne · #3 06-25-2007, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGamUGAAlum

I hear what you are saying, but many groups have policies that instruct (and pressure) chapters to recruit to quota and chapter total. It's not what the founders had in mind, but it seems to be where we are today.

I too wonder if having women's groups be more like the IFC might not be more empowering to genuine sisterhood, but NPC recruitment IS different and creates different expectations for the chapters. A NPC chapter doesn't usually have the option to play by its own rules and be viable.

Oh, I completely agree. We have to deal with things the way they are now. It just makes me sad...and a bit angry.

kathykd2005 · #4 06-25-2007, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

Oh, I completely agree. We have to deal with things the way they are now. It just makes me sad...and a bit angry.

Me, too!

frattypalmtree · #5 06-26-2007, 12:21 AM

lol this thread makes me laugh

i wouldnt want fatties either. whats hard to understand about that? lol but thats just my opinion.. dont get offended or nothin..

PeppyGPhiB · #6 06-26-2007, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by frattypalmtree

lol this thread makes me laugh

i wouldnt want fatties either. whats hard to understand about that? lol but thats just my opinion.. dont get offended or nothin..

Oh give me a break. Most fraternities seem to have their fair share of guys with guts.

James · #7 06-26-2007, 12:27 AM

It can hurt guys in Rush too, as well as socially. Its a definite concern.

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Oh give me a break. Most fraternities seem to have their fair share of guys with guts.

AlexMack · #8 06-26-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tippiechick

This thread needs to die. It is going nowhere.

DYING!

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Oh give me a break. Most fraternities seem to have their fair share of guys with guts.

Oh but it's different when you have a penis. Because you know, chicks and boobs and beer n stuff! Woooo anorexia!

ΑΓΔSquirrelGirl · #9 06-26-2007, 12:26 AM

I wish we could all move to Ritual Based recruitment. If I'd gone through Recruitment at one of those competitive large schools (and assuming I wouldn't get dropped, since I am not below 100 pounds, own nothing designer, and have no social connections to speak of) I think I would assume that it IS all about being skinny and blonde...and wouldn't have wanted to pledge anyway. If it's NOT about all that then WHY is ritual based recruitment not used? If it's REALLY about being sisters, REALLY about contributing to the community, REALLY about scholarship and founders' ideals, then why is Recruitment all about brand labels, looks, and being shallow in general?

JonInKC · #10 06-26-2007, 02:07 PM

"She ain't heavyyyyyyy....she's my sis-terrrrr.....her wel-fare is myyyyy con-cern....."

Tom Earp · #11 06-26-2007, 02:12 PM

True True!

Not everyone is a Lindsy or Paris, thank goodness!

kathykd2005 · #12 06-26-2007, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp

True True!

Not everyone is a Lindsy or Paris, thank goodness!

Amen to that. Old bag of bones ain't cute.

AlexMack · #13 06-26-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kathykd2005

Amen to that. Old bag of bones ain't cute.

Lindsay used to be gorgeous. When she quits the cocaine and puts the weight back she won't be a bag of bones.

kathykd2005 · #14 06-26-2007, 04:16 PM

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Lindsay used to be gorgeous. When she quits the cocaine and puts the weight back she won't be a bag of bones.

I agree! When people stop telling her that she is sexy when she looks like a crackhead, then she'll stop doing that. She looked spectacular when she was at an average (albeit below normal) weight. I hope everything works out for her.

Soliloquy · #15 06-25-2007, 07:26 PM

It's things like this, that makes myself and MANY other women leary about joining a sorority.

I know my convictions to join will hold true, I could really care less if I feel a connection with the "fat sorority" or the "slutty sorority" etc. If I feel like these are women I want to spend a lot of time with during my collegiate years, you are darn tootin' I will accept a bid from them.

How many wonderful, smart, talented etc. women have refused sorority (or weren't given the opportunity) life because of stereotypical behaviors like this? I would be absolutely disgusted if my GLO acted in this fashion. Granted, I am not in one (yet), I would just hope that my (future) sisters do not act this way.

Isn't part of being in a sorority demonstrating class, morals, scholarly talents, and a dedication to the community? How is forcing someone to abstain from recruitment due to their weight, or even overlooking a PNM due to her weight- despite her incredible resume, acting classy? How is it classy to say that you don't want to ruin your sorority's image by allowing a heavy girl in? Do you really have morals if you are acting this way?

um... no.