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[dgdramadawg]

I'm wondering what school this could possibly be because, as jesssigkap mentioned, 2.2 seems very low for SEC. Of course, adpiucf is absolutely right that taking a girl with the minimum is rare... why take a girl with the bare minimum when there are PNMs with much higher? OP, I'm not trying to guess where you're going; please don't think I'm asking you to tell us.

Here's what's available online for the SEC schools. It seems a lot of schools don't post an "official" required GPA. I wonder how this could hurt PNMs who don't know how much a low GPA could hurt them?

Alabama - none listed. Bama is known for having one of the most competitive recruitments, though, so even if a PNM can register with any GPA a low GPA would equal an early cut (although they don't list official chapter minimums on the site).

Arkansas - 2.5 required to participate.

Auburn - none listed. Site specifically states that PNMs with GPAs below a 3.0 will be unlikely to receive bids.

Florida - none listed, but UF has become very hard to get into... it would be rare to get into UF with a 2.5!

Georgia - none listed, but it's also very hard to get into UGA... it would be rare to get in with a 2.5 high school GPA.

Kentucky - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list 2.8 as required for one house and 3.0 for all the others.

LSU - 2.75 required to participate.

Ole Miss - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list chapter requirements between 2.6 and 3.0.

Miss State - 2.0 required for upperclassmen, nothing listed for underclassmen. Chapter GPAs are much higher.

South Carolina - none listed, but chapter GPAs are all very high (most above 3.3), so I can't imagine anyone taking a grade risk.

Tennessee - none listed, but FAQs mention that the average sorority member has a 3.1 GPA so it can be assumed that similar qualifications are expected from PNMs.

Vanderbilt - Deferred recruitment (no GPA listed), but I can't imagine someone with a 2.5 getting into Vandy.

[Drolefille]

I'm a little uncomfortable with this since it breaks the "don't out the PNM who doesn't out herself" rule. I agree that I don't quite buy it, but I think this pushes it.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm a little uncomfortable with this since it breaks the "don't out the PNM who doesn't out herself" rule. I agree that I don't quite buy it, but I think this pushes it.

I wouldn't have posted anything about school requirements if anything would have given away the PNM's school. Since most of the schools don't list anything specific and none list a 2.2, all we know is that the PNM is attending an SEC school.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I wouldn't have posted anything about school requirements if anything would have given away the PNM's school. Since most of the schools don't list anything specific and none list a 2.2, all we know is that the PNM is attending an SEC school.

I know but it's just one of those things, you know? Then the next post is people narrowing it down from their own personal knowledge, etc. I thought I'd mention it now rather than wait til it was (IMO) too late.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I know but it's just one of those things, you know? Then the next post is people narrowing it down from their own personal knowledge, etc. I thought I'd mention it now rather than wait til it was (IMO) too late.

Ah, I see. Kind of "snowball effect prevention."

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

Ah, I see. Kind of "snowball effect prevention."

Yeah

[UGAalum94]

OP,

Really if you want to be Greek, you have a couple of options:

1. Go through this year, be honest, cross your fingers, get all your other ducks in a row like recs, etc, and hope for the best, but know that we don't think it looks good.

2. Wait until you can earn some college grades, and then go through either COB/COR if your campus has it.

3. Wait until you can earn some college grades and then go through formal next year.

Personally, I'd recommend the third option because I think that if you make good grades it will give you the best shot at the most groups. Be aware that recruitment can be harder as a sophomore. But, IMO, the same groups that would COB/COR this year, would probably take sophomores in formal and some of the groups who can't COB/COR because the met quota and are at total (they are bigger and likely perceived as "more desirable*" groups) may also take a few sophomores next fall.

But I will mention something else that will sound bad but may have some truth: some groups are financially elitist. Your having to work will indicate to some groups that you aren't from the same kind of family background that they want in pnms. Not all groups are this way, but some are. So, when you explain that you have lower grades because you worked, you could be further hurting your chances. And before everyone jumps all over me, my chapter was not one of these chapters, but you're probably delusional if you say that no SEC chapters are this way.

* and again, not more desirable to me, but if they were perceived as so freaking desirable to all 1000 girls who went through recruitment, would they be COB/CORing? Notice I said "perceived as desirable."

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I'm wondering what school this could possibly be because, as jesssigkap mentioned, 2.2 seems very low for SEC. Of course, adpiucf is absolutely right that taking a girl with the minimum is rare... why take a girl with the bare minimum when there are PNMs with much higher? OP, I'm not trying to guess where you're going; please don't think I'm asking you to tell us.

Here's what's available online for the SEC schools. It seems a lot of schools don't post an "official" required GPA. I wonder how this could hurt PNMs who don't know how much a low GPA could hurt them?

Alabama - none listed. Bama is known for having one of the most competitive recruitments, though, so even if a PNM can register with any GPA a low GPA would equal an early cut (although they don't list official chapter minimums on the site).

Arkansas - 2.5 required to participate.

Auburn - none listed. Site specifically states that PNMs with GPAs below a 3.0 will be unlikely to receive bids.

Florida - none listed, but UF has become very hard to get into... it would be rare to get into UF with a 2.5!

Georgia - none listed, but it's also very hard to get into UGA... it would be rare to get in with a 2.5 high school GPA.

Kentucky - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list 2.8 as required for one house and 3.0 for all the others.

LSU - 2.75 required to participate.

Ole Miss - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list chapter requirements between 2.6 and 3.0.

Miss State - 2.0 required for upperclassmen, nothing listed for underclassmen. Chapter GPAs are much higher.

South Carolina - none listed, but chapter GPAs are all very high (most above 3.3), so I can't imagine anyone taking a grade risk.

Tennessee - none listed, but FAQs mention that the average sorority member has a 3.1 GPA so it can be assumed that similar qualifications are expected from PNMs.

Vanderbilt - Deferred recruitment (no GPA listed), but I can't imagine someone with a 2.5 getting into Vandy.

Not that it matters, but DGDramaDawg, this post demonstrates among other reasons why you are one of my favorite GCers. No level of investigation is too much for an SEC rush thread.

ETA: I didn't mean anything in contrast to the Drolefille post. I'm not in favor of "outing" folks; since you listed them all, I never saw the problem. I agree that we shouldn't try to narrow it down any further than the PNM wants us too. She said SEC; you listed all the SEC.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Not that it matters, but DGDramaDawg, this post demonstrates among other reasons why you are one of my favorite GCers. No level of investigation is too much for an SEC rush thread.

Haha, this is what comes of having a job that gives me a two month summer break! I'm not sure that you'd get this level of quality out of me during the school year!