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[adpiucf]

JessSigKap,

The min. is not necessarily the norm, though. For example, when I was in undergrad, you had to have at least a 3.0 to be considered for acceptance into my major. In reality, the cut-off for those who were actually accepted was a 3.5.

[dgdramadawg]

I'm wondering what school this could possibly be because, as jesssigkap mentioned, 2.2 seems very low for SEC. Of course, adpiucf is absolutely right that taking a girl with the minimum is rare... why take a girl with the bare minimum when there are PNMs with much higher? OP, I'm not trying to guess where you're going; please don't think I'm asking you to tell us.

Here's what's available online for the SEC schools. It seems a lot of schools don't post an "official" required GPA. I wonder how this could hurt PNMs who don't know how much a low GPA could hurt them?

Alabama - none listed. Bama is known for having one of the most competitive recruitments, though, so even if a PNM can register with any GPA a low GPA would equal an early cut (although they don't list official chapter minimums on the site).

Arkansas - 2.5 required to participate.

Auburn - none listed. Site specifically states that PNMs with GPAs below a 3.0 will be unlikely to receive bids.

Florida - none listed, but UF has become very hard to get into... it would be rare to get into UF with a 2.5!

Georgia - none listed, but it's also very hard to get into UGA... it would be rare to get in with a 2.5 high school GPA.

Kentucky - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list 2.8 as required for one house and 3.0 for all the others.

LSU - 2.75 required to participate.

Ole Miss - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list chapter requirements between 2.6 and 3.0.

Miss State - 2.0 required for upperclassmen, nothing listed for underclassmen. Chapter GPAs are much higher.

South Carolina - none listed, but chapter GPAs are all very high (most above 3.3), so I can't imagine anyone taking a grade risk.

Tennessee - none listed, but FAQs mention that the average sorority member has a 3.1 GPA so it can be assumed that similar qualifications are expected from PNMs.

Vanderbilt - Deferred recruitment (no GPA listed), but I can't imagine someone with a 2.5 getting into Vandy.

[Drolefille]

I'm a little uncomfortable with this since it breaks the "don't out the PNM who doesn't out herself" rule. I agree that I don't quite buy it, but I think this pushes it.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I'm a little uncomfortable with this since it breaks the "don't out the PNM who doesn't out herself" rule. I agree that I don't quite buy it, but I think this pushes it.

I wouldn't have posted anything about school requirements if anything would have given away the PNM's school. Since most of the schools don't list anything specific and none list a 2.2, all we know is that the PNM is attending an SEC school.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I wouldn't have posted anything about school requirements if anything would have given away the PNM's school. Since most of the schools don't list anything specific and none list a 2.2, all we know is that the PNM is attending an SEC school.

I know but it's just one of those things, you know? Then the next post is people narrowing it down from their own personal knowledge, etc. I thought I'd mention it now rather than wait til it was (IMO) too late.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I know but it's just one of those things, you know? Then the next post is people narrowing it down from their own personal knowledge, etc. I thought I'd mention it now rather than wait til it was (IMO) too late.

Ah, I see. Kind of "snowball effect prevention."

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

Ah, I see. Kind of "snowball effect prevention."

Yeah

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by dgdramadawg

I'm wondering what school this could possibly be because, as jesssigkap mentioned, 2.2 seems very low for SEC. Of course, adpiucf is absolutely right that taking a girl with the minimum is rare... why take a girl with the bare minimum when there are PNMs with much higher? OP, I'm not trying to guess where you're going; please don't think I'm asking you to tell us.

Here's what's available online for the SEC schools. It seems a lot of schools don't post an "official" required GPA. I wonder how this could hurt PNMs who don't know how much a low GPA could hurt them?

Alabama - none listed. Bama is known for having one of the most competitive recruitments, though, so even if a PNM can register with any GPA a low GPA would equal an early cut (although they don't list official chapter minimums on the site).

Arkansas - 2.5 required to participate.

Auburn - none listed. Site specifically states that PNMs with GPAs below a 3.0 will be unlikely to receive bids.

Florida - none listed, but UF has become very hard to get into... it would be rare to get into UF with a 2.5!

Georgia - none listed, but it's also very hard to get into UGA... it would be rare to get in with a 2.5 high school GPA.

Kentucky - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list 2.8 as required for one house and 3.0 for all the others.

LSU - 2.75 required to participate.

Ole Miss - no official GPA required to participate, but in recruitment info they list chapter requirements between 2.6 and 3.0.

Miss State - 2.0 required for upperclassmen, nothing listed for underclassmen. Chapter GPAs are much higher.

South Carolina - none listed, but chapter GPAs are all very high (most above 3.3), so I can't imagine anyone taking a grade risk.

Tennessee - none listed, but FAQs mention that the average sorority member has a 3.1 GPA so it can be assumed that similar qualifications are expected from PNMs.

Vanderbilt - Deferred recruitment (no GPA listed), but I can't imagine someone with a 2.5 getting into Vandy.

Not that it matters, but DGDramaDawg, this post demonstrates among other reasons why you are one of my favorite GCers. No level of investigation is too much for an SEC rush thread.

ETA: I didn't mean anything in contrast to the Drolefille post. I'm not in favor of "outing" folks; since you listed them all, I never saw the problem. I agree that we shouldn't try to narrow it down any further than the PNM wants us too. She said SEC; you listed all the SEC.

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Not that it matters, but DGDramaDawg, this post demonstrates among other reasons why you are one of my favorite GCers. No level of investigation is too much for an SEC rush thread.

Haha, this is what comes of having a job that gives me a two month summer break! I'm not sure that you'd get this level of quality out of me during the school year!

[violetpretty]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

JessSigKap,

The min. is not necessarily the norm, though. For example, when I was in undergrad, you had to have at least a 3.0 to be considered for acceptance into my major. In reality, the cut-off for those who were actually accepted was a 3.5.

Right, I was merely suggesting that she go through to meet people, understanding that the chances of her getting a bid are microscopic.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by JessSigKap

Right, I was merely suggesting that she go through to meet people, understanding that the chances of her getting a bid are microscopic.

First off, I apologize for the multiple posts. I'd really like for someone to explain how you all do multi-quote replies so I can do it differently. How do you do that? Does it require cutting and pasting from multiple windows?

JessSigKap, reasonable people can disagree about this, and I've given the "take a chance, what could it hurt" position with many girls who were choosing between a less that perfect recruitment experience and not going through at all. So I'm not busting on your comment here, but. . .

I found SEC rush to be a pretty punishing experience, and my rush wasn't even that bad considering what I know now about going through before my third year with mediocre grades only knowing girls in four groups before rush (but it was a long time ago).

The stamina needed for the mentally draining task of enthusiastically and seemingly authentically having virtually identical small talk conversations from sun up to sun down, coupled, let's be honest for most people, with invite lists reflecting open rejection from at least some groups does not equal an experience I'd recommend to anyone who didn't have a reasonable expectation of joining a group who had any other hope of getting a bid later.

Even if you go in with an "I'll see what a happens; I'm just here to make friends" attitude, the experience itself makes you crazy. To do it knowing that the results are going to likely stink is something I would only recommend to someone that I either disliked or thought was already insane.

But others might disagree.

One more thing is that I suspect that going through formal more than one time in itself may cause red flags to go up at some groups.

[ISUKappa]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

First off, I apologize for the multiple posts. I'd really like for someone to explain how you all do multi-quote replies so I can do it differently. How do you do that? Does it require cutting and pasting from multiple windows?

See the little button that has the quotes (") and plus (+) sign next to the quote button? Click on that for every post you want to quote. Then click the "Post Reply" button. All the posts you want to quote will then be in the reply box.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by ISUKappa

See the little button that has the quotes (") and plus (+) sign next to the quote button? Click on that for every post you want to quote. Then click the "Post Reply" button. All the posts you want to quote will then be in the reply box.

Thank you so much. I never even noticed it was there.