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[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by MaggieXi

I am not sure how a Fall Rush calculates your HS grades into the equation or how the members would even have access to verify your hs records, but I guess its possible. (i.e. Jane Doe writes down on her app. that she had a 3.0 in hs when in fact she had a 2.0 -- how are they going to verify that????)

My guess is through the high school transcript in her admissions packet.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

My guess is through the high school transcript in her admissions packet.

Yeah, I remember signing a paper that they could have access to my GPA.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

My guess is through the high school transcript in her admissions packet.

Yep. There's a spot on the recruitment form for it and Greek Life would send out any "corrections" that had to be made from that master list. Don't lie, you will get caught.

Also, whoever thought it was a good idea to make someone's GPA on a 7 point scale, my calculator doesn't like you.

[sherbertlemons]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Yep. There's a spot on the recruitment form for it and Greek Life would send out any "corrections" that had to be made from that master list. Don't lie, you will get caught.

Also, whoever thought it was a good idea to make someone's GPA on a 7 point scale, my calculator doesn't like you.

AT UCF, every chapter would receive a copy of every recruitment application. (At UCF, that's a lot of paper, too!) If any corrections needed to be made, the correction was obvious on the application. They also did it for ACT/SAT scores, too, as I recall.

That generally was not considered too big of a deal, especially if it was only slightly off. Sometimes it's the difference in how the college calulates GPA versus how the high school calculates GPA. However, if it was listed as a 3.0 and UCF corrected it as a 2.0, it would definitely be noticed!

Believe me, I have heard of PNM's getting dropped due to dishonesty on applications. It didn't just relate to the recruitment application, either. Lies on other applications have gotten back to chapters and resulted in the PNM getting dropped.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by sherbertlemons

AT UCF, every chapter would receive a copy of every recruitment application. (At UCF, that's a lot of paper, too!) If any corrections needed to be made, the correction was obvious on the application. They also did it for ACT/SAT scores, too, as I recall.

That generally was not considered too big of a deal, especially if it was only slightly off. Sometimes it's the difference in how the college calulates GPA versus how the high school calculates GPA. However, if it was listed as a 3.0 and UCF corrected it as a 2.0, it would definitely be noticed!

Believe me, I have heard of PNM's getting dropped due to dishonesty on applications. It didn't just relate to the recruitment application, either. Lies on other applications have gotten back to chapters and resulted in the PNM getting dropped.

We all got copies, but we got them as they came in in spurts. Greek Life just sent out a printout of any updates/corrections that needed to be made. My favorite was college sophomores neglecting to include their college GPA in favor of their HS 4.0.

Anyone else ever get guys filling out the recruitment applications? Ours were stored in the Greek Life office and apparently still say "Sorority and Fraternity" on them. I don't know if Greek Life catches more than we see or what but we had two guys my senior year. They both had foreign names that were gender-ambiguous to your average American. Facebook helped out with that one. (I don't think they were trying to sign up for recruitment, just wanting to be notified about fraternity Rush)

[sherbertlemons]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

My favorite was college sophomores neglecting to include their college GPA in favor of their HS 4.0.

I remember a few of those, too. Honestly, maybe I'm just paranoid, but it never even occured to me that they wouldn't check GPAs on stuff like that. It's obviously so tempting to lie.

Actually, I've always wondered what purpose the self repoted GPA has on reruitment applications, since Greek Affairs still had to check them anyways.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by sherbertlemons

I remember a few of those, too. Honestly, maybe I'm just paranoid, but it never even occured to me that they wouldn't check GPAs on stuff like that. It's obviously so tempting to lie.

Actually, I've always wondered what purpose the self repoted GPA has on reruitment applications, since Greek Affairs still had to check them anyways.

From my perspective (that of the person making the spreadsheets) it was nice to have the info to enter as we got each application, making corrections to that later was definately easier than entering all of that later. Particularly since I usually had to convert GPAs to a 4.0 standard, that's not always hard and you get good at memorizing the obvious ones but it can take time.

[REE1993]

At my first school, where I pledged an NPC sorority, initiation was held the first week of the following semester to make sure that only pledges with high enough GPA initiated. This was in the early 90s, and I am not sure if they do that anymore, but that is how it was done then. (I left school the last week of the semester due to health, and was depledged).

There was a girl in my pledge class who did not make grades the semester before, and pledged two semesters in a row. She didn't make grades the next semester either, and she was dropped.

[MaggieXi]

I was just curious how panhellenic got grades from hs.

We had girls lie on their applications all the time. There was a rumor -- every year -- that no one checked. Believe me, everyone checked (on grades, legacies -- we even had one girl who was a transfer and claimed she hadn't accepted a bid at her former school when in fact she had and had been initiated!!!! ) And for the girls who did get caught big time (like saying they had a 3.5 when they bearly had a 2.0 and the girl who actually was a sister in another GLO not on our campus were of course asked to leave recruitment. Our big problem was that Winter Term grades often weren't posted before recruitment began so if you ended up flubbing your winter term course you could get half way through recruitment and get pulled for grades. Or in the alternative have the bear minimum to rush, get released from houses with a higher minimum and then your winter term grades posted and you could have actually rushed those groups. I hope that they have fixed this system by now it caused pure chaos!!!!

[chelc8807]

I just talked to the Panhellenic Office at the school and they said 2.2 is required, but most prefer a 2.5 or better. just to keep y'all posted.