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06-13-2007, 03:57 PM
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I don't want to make any assumptions about what you're saying, so can you elaborate for me?
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An organization doesn't have to have "multicultural" in the title for it to be multicultural enough..... It just sounds like people are getting into a pissing match about which orgs are "multicultural enough." A while back I thought there was a concensus on what an MCGLO was -- a GLO that is multicultural by design and not just by circumstance.
MSU, for example has multicultural programming, traditions, and history -- and they happen to have a bond with a Latino fraternity. I don't see what the big deal is.
You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.
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06-13-2007, 04:08 PM
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You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.
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But your organization also doesn't "flip/flop" between calling itself an African American fraternity and a Multicultural fraternity. I think this is where the controversy lies within the LGLO and MCGLO community.
Perhaps some of the LGLOs and MCGLOs are experiencing an "identity crisis" as they grow (not saying this in a sarcastic way, that's just the best way I can describe it). It's really unfair to aspirants who are searching for the organization they wish to pursue, and unfair to members who joined under a focus that may be completely different now.
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06-13-2007, 04:19 PM
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I understand.
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06-13-2007, 05:17 PM
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But your organization also doesn't "flip/flop" between calling itself an African American fraternity and a Multicultural fraternity. I think this is where the controversy lies within the LGLO and MCGLO community. Exactly!
Perhaps some of the LGLOs and MCGLOs are experiencing an "identity crisis" as they grow (not saying this in a sarcastic way, that's just the best way I can describe it). It's really unfair to aspirants who are searching for the organization they wish to pursue, and unfair to members who joined under a focus that may be completely different now.
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I totally understand what you're saying here. And I can see it as an identity crisis, but I can also see some are trying to figure out their niche on their campuses. In the latter case, this issue seems to stem from individual chapters, rather than from the national governing body. I suspect that some orgs' national boards don't even know about the flip-flopping (one org in particular has 50+ chapters, so I'm sure they can't keep track of how each chapter presents itself at every given moment).
I don't have a problem with an org changing from being LGLO, AGLO, etc to being MCGLO (by design), but it should be done from a national scope. Like LatinaAlumna stated, it can be unfair to interests and members in the long run.
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06-14-2007, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
An organization doesn't have to have "multicultural" in the title for it to be multicultural enough..... It just sounds like people are getting into a pissing match about which orgs are "multicultural enough." A while back I thought there was a concensus on what an MCGLO was -- a GLO that is multicultural by design and not just by circumstance.
MSU, for example has multicultural programming, traditions, and history -- and they happen to have a bond with a Latino fraternity. I don't see what the big deal is.
You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.
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I see where you're coming from. With Mu Sigma Upsilon I think the intrigue/doubt/suspect,or whatever you want to call it, about their MC "by design" status comes from the "spanish" motto and formal ties with a Latino fraternity.
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06-14-2007, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
An organization doesn't have to have "multicultural" in the title for it to be multicultural enough..... It just sounds like people are getting into a pissing match about which orgs are "multicultural enough." A while back I thought there was a concensus on what an MCGLO was -- a GLO that is multicultural by design and not just by circumstance.
MSU, for example has multicultural programming, traditions, and history -- and they happen to have a bond with a Latino fraternity. I don't see what the big deal is.
You don't have to put the MULTICULTURAL rubber stamp on every single thing you do to be legitimate. Alpha doesn't put a black stamp on everything and we're no less a black fraternity.
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Amen...I don't see the big deal with us being tied to a Latino-based fraternity. LSU is just as diverse as my organization. Hell, in my semester alone spring 2006 I had line brothers from just about every ethnicity: from Indian to Irish to Italian to Vietnamese and black as well...just to name a few.
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06-14-2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by MSU3CelticSpr06
Amen...I don't see the big deal with us being tied to a Latino-based fraternity. LSU is just as diverse as my organization. Hell, in my semester alone spring 2006 I had line brothers from just about every ethnicity: from Indian to Irish to Italian to Vietnamese and black as well...just to name a few.
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I totally see your point. In general however, there are organizations that may have started out "Latino-based" and now that they have a more multicultural membership, now claimed to be "multicultural based".
My ls's and I are as diverse as they come. I know sorors of every ethnicity. But their membership does not change the focus of Sigma's programming and community service. And I think that's where the discrepancy is, orgs are seen to be "flip flopping" on the core ideals of their organization.
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06-14-2007, 11:32 AM
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I totally see your point. In general however, there are organizations that may have started out "Latino-based" and now that they have a more multicultural membership, now claimed to be "multicultural based".
My ls's and I are as diverse as they come. I know sorors of every ethnicity. But their membership does not change the focus of Sigma's programming and community service. And I think that's where the discrepancy is, orgs are seen to be "flip flopping" on the core ideals of their organization.
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Yeah I see what you are saying. I don't think that LSU (and I haven't seen this yet) is promoting themselves as a multicultural frat. but somehow they've been attracting men from many different cultures for a while now. Most of the programs that I've seen have something to do with the Latino culture.
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06-14-2007, 05:09 PM
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Yeah I see what you are saying. I don't think that LSU (and I haven't seen this yet) is promoting themselves as a multicultural frat. but somehow they've been attracting men from many different cultures for a while now.
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And it's because they're all freaking HOTTTT.
I'm sorry, but it's true.
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06-14-2007, 05:12 PM
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And it's because they're all freaking HOTTTT.
I'm sorry, but it's true.
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lol...u so silly
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