Isaiah Washington fired from Grey's

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I don't personally care that he got fired, I'm just very hesitant to accept the trendy idea that saying something offensive is grounds, by itself, to get one fired.

Huh? People get fired all the time in corporate America for saying something offensive. You don't have to even have a reason for firing someone in most states, so offending your coworkers is certainly one way of asking for it.

I think this decision definitely was based on finances. Cast members were threatening to walk because they apparently didn't like I. Washington. If they walk, the show goes down the tubes and that's definitely a financial loss for ABC. Again, in corporate America people are fired all the time for not working well with coworkers.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Huh? People get fired all the time in corporate America for saying something offensive. You don't have to even have a reason for firing someone in most states, so offending your coworkers is certainly one way of asking for it.

I think this decision definitely was based on finances. Cast members were threatening to walk because they apparently didn't like I. Washington. If they walk, the show goes down the tubes and that's definitely a financial loss for ABC. Again, in corporate America people are fired all the time for not working well with coworkers.

Simply because something happens "all the time" doesn't mean I agree with it.

"[N]ot working well with coworkers" is completely different than being fired for having politically incorrect beliefs and expressing them. If a person in their spare time says he thinks gay people are disgusting and personally dislikes him, yet goes about his work without problem, I don't think its something you should be fired for (note, I'm not saying that happened here). As I stated, I don't like the mindset our society has which is "well, you can't say things like that outloud and keep your job". If the mindset was "you can't say things like that because sponsors will pull out", I'm fine with it. If the mindset was "you can't verbally abuse coworkers and keep your job" I'm fine with that too. However, I don't think its limited to just those situations.

[RU OX Alum]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Huh? People get fired all the time in corporate America for saying something offensive. You don't have to even have a reason for firing someone in most states, so offending your coworkers is certainly one way of asking for it.

I think this decision definitely was based on finances. Cast members were threatening to walk because they apparently didn't like I. Washington. If they walk, the show goes down the tubes and that's definitely a financial loss for ABC. Again, in corporate America people are fired all the time for not working well with coworkers.

saying something offensive in and of itself might not get you fired, but causing a hostile work enviroment will/might

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

saying something offensive in and of itself might not get you fired, but causing a hostile work enviroment will/might

This is true, but it raises the question of what legitimately creates a hostile work environment? If I openly protest gay rights in my downtime, but work in an office with several homosexual people, is that enough? I sure hope not.

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by KDAngel

I just feel bad for poor Christina. She FINALLY decided to settle down in life and marrying Burke would have definitely made her character a bit softer on one hand, but this will probably make her either depressed (which I doubt, b/c they did that with Izzie and Denny) or driven and cold (which I'm guessing they'll do)... who knows! Can't wait to find out though.

Wow. Are you serious? Nevermind that a fellow cast member had to deal with a very derogatory attack, and another cast member almost dealt with a physical attack. Poor fake Christina.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Wow. Are you serious? Nevermind that a fellow cast member had to deal with a very derogatory attack, and another cast member almost dealt with a physical attack. Poor fake Christina.

You mean Christina's not a real person???!!!??? Grey's isn't a reality show???!!!!!????

[Thetagirl218]

When I first heard the news, I was mad at ABC for firing him. But the truth is as much as love Dr. Burke's character, the real life actor has made some very wrong choices and those have consquences. Since Addision is leaving for "Private Paratice" what sort of new characters do you think they will introduce?

[LaneSig]

From what I have read, there were a couple of other factors involved. Isaiah Washington had also gotten into a physical altercation and had been "released" from a previous television show. Sounds like a pattern of behaviour. Also, I think that the cast was very upset that he used the Golden Globes to deny what happened when the whole cast knew what happened.

Shinerbock, what you do in your off-time is your business. If Washington wanted to make comments when he was away from the studio, that's his right. But, if you use derogatory language directed at a co-worker and you are at work? Then it does become the company's problem and issue.

Do Sheffield, Rocker, and Washington have the right to believe what they want to believe and freedom of speech? Absolutely. Then stick up for what you believe in and don't whine about the consequences of saying what you believe.

PS - I do not believe, condone or agree with the statements that Sheffield, Rocker, and Washington say. They do have the right of speech. But, again, accept the consequences for your speech and actions.

[KDAngel]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Wow. Are you serious? Nevermind that a fellow cast member had to deal with a very derogatory attack, and another cast member almost dealt with a physical attack. Poor fake Christina.

I already said what I had to say about the Washington. The person before me said they were getting tired of Grey's but thought it would be interesting to see how things changed and my comment was in response to that.

So stop being so critical for nothing, I've had plenty to say on the serious situation side of this thing...

[PM_Mama00]

Originally Posted by KDAngel

I already said what I had to say about the Washington. The person before me said they were getting tired of Grey's but thought it would be interesting to see how things changed and my comment was in response to that.

So stop being so critical for nothing, I've had plenty to say on the serious situation side of this thing...

Well you know there is a whole Grey's Anatomy thread right?

I thought this was specifically to discuss Isaiah's firing?

[Bella_Petit]

I saw this coming. I wasn't surprised by the news at all after the season finale of the show.

[KDAngel]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Well you know there is a whole Grey's Anatomy thread right?

I thought this was specifically to discuss Isaiah's firing?

OK, you are correct in that is why I gave it it's own thread, but someone commented and I was responding. I didn't really see the harm in that...

[BetteDavisEyes]

Well, it was only a matter of time before he did this. I'm not surprised. It's far easier to play the race card than to admit you're a homophobic creep.

[Senusret I]

To be the "scary black guy" in a situation....

Seriously, if you don't know what this feels like..... shut up now.

[deadbear80]

I hate to break it to Isaiah, but it's funny that he's playing the race card when there are still 2 Black characters on the show. Neither one of them seems to be in danger of being fired or seems to cause trouble on the set. So yeah, Isaiah, go on believing what you want...it's not working....

PS: Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Shonda Rhimes (Grey's Anatomy's creator) Black? Because yeah, she's really going to make people believe she's a racist