why join? (sure already asked)

macallan25 · #1 06-07-2007, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeydude1234

why join a frat?

i know freindship obv

connections w.work, etc...

obv the goood parties im guessing, as without being greek....

socials/mixers cool?

easy to meet girls get laid?

what im trying to get at is it worth the lower GPA when you pledge, as everyone i know who pledged is sub 2.5.......so ?

Since most of the posts in response you to you are borderline asshole-ish, I figured I'd reply.

To be honest, you named off quite a few of the things that come with joining a solid, good fraternity. I don't find your post insulting at all, and frankly, I don't know why anyone would, maybe the part about getting laid, but who cares.

I don't know where you are in school, but joining a fraternity can open up many doors for you. Good chapters are going to have quite a few powerful alumni, which translates into damn good connections for your post grad years. Everything else, in my opinion, is an added bonus. Again, it all depends on where you are and who you decide to pledge....but the right fraternity will have great parties, good trips, great relationships with good sororities, and lot s of good guys who will be your friends for life. I think the friendships that you make is probably the best part. And with these friends comes even more oppurtunities in the way of entertainment, going places, etc. etc. Trips and getaways with a handful of your fraternity brothers are always a hell of a good time.

As for grades.....most chapters I know of have grade point averages that you have to make in order to get initiated. Usually something in the 2.5-3.0 range. Our pledge class average my freshman year was well above a 3.0.......I had a 3.8........so I wouldn't be too worried about it. Obviously though, if you screw around and don't get your work done, you will have crappy grades.

As for what fraternities do besides mixers and parties.........rush trips, chapter retreats, philanthropy events, golf tournaments, sorority functions......lot of different things, depends where you are, who you join.

tld221 · #2 06-07-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

Since most of the posts in response you to you are borderline asshole-ish, I figured I'd reply.

To be honest, you named off quite a few of the things that come with joining a solid, good fraternity. I don't find your post insulting at all, and frankly, I don't know why anyone would, maybe the part about getting laid, but who cares.

I don't know where you are in school, but joining a fraternity can open up many doors for you. Good chapters are going to have quite a few powerful alumni, which translates into damn good connections for your post grad years. Everything else, in my opinion, is an added bonus. Again, it all depends on where you are and who you decide to pledge....but the right fraternity will have great parties, good trips, great relationships with good sororities, and lot s of good guys who will be your friends for life. I think the friendships that you make is probably the best part. And with these friends comes even more oppurtunities in the way of entertainment, going places, etc. etc. Trips and getaways with a handful of your fraternity brothers are always a hell of a good time.

As for grades.....most chapters I know of have grade point averages that you have to make in order to get initiated. Usually something in the 2.5-3.0 range. Our pledge class average my freshman year was well above a 3.0.......I had a 3.8........so I wouldn't be too worried about it. Obviously though, if you screw around and don't get your work done, you will have crappy grades.

As for what fraternities do besides mixers and parties.........rush trips, chapter retreats, philanthropy events, golf tournaments, sorority functions......lot of different things, depends where you are, who you join.

ok if you pledged your freshman and you had a 3.8, then either youre talking about your HS GPA (which clearly doesnt count cause umm... we're in college now) or you're using your GPA from your FIRST SEMESTER. which means you what got 3 A's and maybe like a B+?

well by all means then, applause all around!!!![/sarcasm]

macallan25 · #3 06-07-2007, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tld221

ok if you pledged your freshman and you had a 3.8, then either youre talking about your HS GPA (which clearly doesnt count cause umm... we're in college now) or you're using your GPA from your FIRST SEMESTER. which means you what got 3 A's and maybe like a B+?

well by all means then, applause all around!!!![/sarcasm]

I had a 3.8 my first semester and a 3.8 my second semester. I mean, that's what my transcript says......mabye they are playing a joke on me. As far as I know 4 As and a B, 15 hour course load...........is a 3.8.

Furthermore, I wasn't trying to brag. Didn't realize it was "let's be a tremendous dick head" day.

I'm glad you know how to be sarcastic though. [/sarcasm]

UGAalum94 · #4 06-07-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I had a 3.8 my first semester and a 3.8 my second semester. I mean, that's what my transcript says......mabye they are playing a joke on me. As far as I know 4 As and a B, 15 hour course load...........is a 3.8.

Furthermore, I wasn't trying to brag. Didn't realize it was "let's be a tremendous dick head" day.

I'm glad you know how to be sarcastic though. [/sarcasm]

Honestly, even it it was just during your pledge semester, it's still a good result. I'm not sure why you got the attitude from other posters on that.

Although it may not be typical for NPHC groups, NPC and IFC groups do appeal directly to folks straight out of high school, and I'd say that the OP's list was probably what most guy PNMs are looking for. You're probably kidding yourself if you deny it.

tld221 · #5 06-07-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25

I had a 3.8 my first semester and a 3.8 my second semester. I mean, that's what my transcript says......mabye they are playing a joke on me. As far as I know 4 As and a B, 15 hour course load...........is a 3.8.

Furthermore, I wasn't trying to brag. Didn't realize it was "let's be a tremendous dick head" day.

I'm glad you know how to be sarcastic though. [/sarcasm]

my bad - maybe that did come off like im a total jerkface! all i was saying was that rushing with a 3.8 as a freshman just means you did really well first semester. which is applaudable, i guess, but at the same time i know LOTS of folks who aced their first semester. depends on your courseload and your standards i guess.

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Honestly, even it it was just during your pledge semester, it's still a good result. I'm not sure why you got the attitude from other posters on that.

partially my bad cause you DID say you had a 3.8 both semesters - and during your pledge time - great! now if you were MAINTAINING a 3.8 and you were like a sophomore/junior rushing, then i'd be REALLY impressed. (not that you need to be impressing me... you know? im jus saying)

and that's JMO outside of it being an NPHC vs. NPC/IFC issue - wasnt making it out to be that at all.

(sorry for the hijack!)

JonInKC · #6 06-07-2007, 09:59 PM

Whenever someone asks me "why join" I like to spin them around and pin their arm behind their back. Now who's asking the questions?

macallan25 · #7 06-08-2007, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tld221

my bad - maybe that did come off like im a total jerkface! all i was saying was that rushing with a 3.8 as a freshman just means you did really well first semester. which is applaudable, i guess, but at the same time i know LOTS of folks who aced their first semester. depends on your courseload and your standards i guess.

partially my bad cause you DID say you had a 3.8 both semesters - and during your pledge time - great! now if you were MAINTAINING a 3.8 and you were like a sophomore/junior rushing, then i'd be REALLY impressed. (not that you need to be impressing me... you know? im jus saying)

and that's JMO outside of it being an NPHC vs. NPC/IFC issue - wasnt making it out to be that at all.

(sorry for the hijack!)

No problem....and, again, I wasn't trying to brag....just trying to let the guy know that it's pretty easy to have a good GPA when you pledge.....especially if you have mandatory pledge study halls and a set GPA that you must meet for initiation.

hockeydude1234 · #8 06-08-2007, 11:14 AM

does it matter if im asian as i saw the bible thing.......

"It's not my fault. Somebody had to be the best - we just happened to be it." - Rorion Gracie

AMEN GO GRACIES!! ROyce>sakuraba

FSUZeta · #9 06-07-2007, 04:06 PM

don't forget formals, greek week, intramurals, sorority formals.

many times when ushers, hosts or hostesses are needed for school functions, the administration looks to the greek organizations to supply the needed man(or woman) power. you are then rubbing elbows with many of the area's movers and shakers, not to mention board of trustees, elected officials, and other influential people.

as to looking up gpas, i would say go to some of the larger university websites, go to greek life and see if they post any statistics-several post #of rushees who signed up for recruitment and continue the data thru those that received bids. i am not sure if they track on the fraternity side. BUT, in addition to the rush statistics, often the fraternity and sorority overall gpas
are posted and compared with the all campus mens and womens gpa. usually the fraternity overall gpa is higher than the all campus mens and the sorority overall gpa is higher than the all campus womens.

i saw one recently, but cannot remember which university it was-try auburn, u of alabama, u of illinois, u of maryland, u of georgia or just come up with one on your own.

hockeydude1234 · #10 06-07-2007, 04:15 PM

thanks for all the recent posts not bein a lil to brash.......

but yeah i shuld be good im transferin so i figured it'd be good way to meet people and i had a 3.57 and as long as I dont drop below 3 i shuld be set.

KyleMcGuire1983 · #11 06-07-2007, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hockeydude1234

thanks for all the recent posts not bein a lil to brash.......

but yeah i shuld be good im transferin so i figured it'd be good way to meet people and i had a 3.57 and as long as I dont drop below 3 i shuld be set.

If you're transferring then rushing is a great way to meet people. I rushed the first day of classes and met all kinds of people I'd otherwise not know (I'd just be another lonely commuter). Considering you're Hockeydude I'll assume you've been on sports teams....

The best way I think you could relate to us would be to think of a Fraternity as a sports team only:

1) they live together...almost all of them
2) they swear loyalty to each other, usually on a Bible
3) they get in huge trouble if they backstab each other
4) they do much more work than just physical training....expect having to work to set up, organize, and execute: socials, philanthropies, chapter meetings, etc etc
5) they pay dues....not to have friends but to keep the house functional (where do you think the money for those formals, socials, t-shirts, and great parties comes from?)
6) they get more negative press than the Duke Laccrosse team!