Terrorist rights???

[James]

Alright people, I am sending a giant eyeroll out to almost all of you .

A lot of you need to stop with the angry rhetoric because there is no point and it clouds the issues. Also, its a weknes of character if you need anger, rationaization, and self justification in order to do unpleasant things that need to be done. Its also dangerous to dehumanize your opponent. Which is what some of the terms you are using indicate.

There is very little value judgement here. Its not about right or wrong, thats too complicated and hard to defend. ITs realy about Us against Them. Lets keep it that way and stop trying to us words like deserve . . . all it does is open us up to attacks on the flaws in our our self justifications.

I agree with Arya that we need to just come out and say it like the way it is. We are like Machiavelli with a conscience given us by TV.

But I understand that most people need the propaganda and rah rah to feel better about themselves and the unpleasant things that need to be done. Kind of like a PC fantasy land. Weak, but again a trait that will allow me to make more money and be more successful as life goes on (sounds of cash registers in the background).

As a related but off topic Pessimists are often a lot more realistic in their assessments of reality, but optimists are more happy, if delusional.