Jr. Greek

Sugar08 · #1 06-05-2007, 11:37 AM

Yes, youth auxiliary participation should stop completely once you hit college, as you should now be eligible to join a D9 org. Or will be, once you become a sophomore.

ladygreek · #2 06-05-2007, 11:43 AM

killakam11--not much discreet about that.

Sugar08 · #3 06-05-2007, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

killakam11--not much discreet about that.

LOL... I did not even catch that. More coffee, please!

12dn94dst · #4 06-05-2007, 12:02 PM

What disturbs me is you are disassociating yourself from your friend for the sake of "discretion." I'm pretty sure that before he was greek, the two of you discussed your aspirations, so he's aware of them. And I'm also sure you're not advertising yourself as a future or soon-to-be chi upsilon zeta. I would think that regardless that he has transitioned into the organization you wish to join, you'd be proud to be tagged in photos of him. I mean, it's not like folks don't know y'all are cool and have been for a while. Don't let your friend's being greek change you.

Can we be clear on something? Delta G.E.M.S., Sigma Beta, Kappa League, et. al., ARE NOT "Jr. Greek" organizations. They are enrichment/mentoring programs, grooming you to be better young adults and better people. Being a member of any of these groups does not necessarily mean that you will become a member of the sponsoring organization (although we would LOVE for you to) or any other greek organization. Yes, they've developed, and have been taught, steps, have calls, jackets, names and numbers. Recognize it for what it is, and don't make it something that it's not.

rhoyaltempest · #5 06-05-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst

What disturbs me is you are disassociating yourself from your friend for the sake of "discretion." I'm pretty sure that before he was greek, the two of you discussed your aspirations, so he's aware of them. And I'm also sure you're not advertising yourself as a future or soon-to-be chi upsilon zeta. I would think that regardless that he has transitioned into the organization you wish to join, you'd be proud to be tagged in photos of him. I mean, it's not like folks don't know y'all are cool and have been for a while. Don't let your friend's being greek change you.

Can we be clear on something? Delta G.E.M.S., Sigma Beta, Kappa League, et. al., ARE NOT "Jr. Greek" organizations. They are enrichment/mentoring programs, grooming you to be better young adults and better people. Being a member of any of these groups does not necessarily mean that you will become a member of the sponsoring organization (although we would LOVE for you to) or any other greek organization. Yes, they've developed, and have been taught, steps, have calls, jackets, names and numbers. Recognize it for what it is, and don't make it something that it's not.

And this is part of the problem of why these young people think they are "junior greeks." The stepping is okay since everyone and their momma is stepping now but some of the other things just shouldn't be IMO.

KAPital PHINUst · #6 06-05-2007, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

And this is part of the problem of why these young people think they are "junior greeks." The stepping is okay since everyone and their momma is stepping now but some of the other things just shouldn't be IMO.

Of course! I thought ya' knew!

(j/k, sorry couldn't resist)

*lol*

killakam11 · #7 06-05-2007, 12:56 PM

"apart", funny. I never said I wanted to disassociate myself, I just don't want people making assumptions about me. The reason I say this is because people are nosy, and all it takes is somebody to see one picture and say, "Oh, are you a(n) _____?" Then the ball starts rolling from there. We attended different schools and the undergrad chapter at my school didn't know me personally, so how are they supposed to take hearing things like that about me? How would that effect my candidacy for membership? Now, this upcoming semester, we will be attending the same school and the most of the undergrad chapter does know me personally. In spite of that, I still might run into some of the same problems.

killakam11 · #8 06-05-2007, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

And this is part of the problem of why these young people think they are "junior greeks." The stepping is okay since everyone and their momma is stepping now but some of the other things just shouldn't be IMO.

I feel you, but don't think that there is any problem with the term "Jr Greek". It's just that some ppl don't understand the meaning of it and the purpose of their org. The problem is they don't understand that "Jr Greek" does not necessarily mean "Fraternity/Sorority". That's why you see Kappa Leaguers/Rhoers Club/Sigma Betas with canes and Omega Gents with gold boots, it's just some stuff that aint right.

12dn94dst · #9 06-05-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by killakam11

"apart", funny. I never said I wanted to disassociate myself, I just don't want people making assumptions about me. The reason I say this is because people are nosy, and all it takes is somebody to see one picture and say, "Oh, are you a(n) _____?" Then the ball starts rolling from there. We attended different schools and the undergrad chapter at my school didn't know me personally, so how are they supposed to take hearing things like that about me? How would that effect my candidacy for membership? Now, this upcoming semester, we will be attending the same school and the most of the undergrad chapter does know me personally. In spite of that, I still might run into some of the same problems.

People are going to make assumptions about you regardless and more so if you do become what you seek. The way you let the men in the chapter know what the real deal is you get to know them. They'll also be able to address the concerns you have much better than any of us here can.

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Originally Posted by killakam11

I feel you, but don't think that there is any problem with the term "Jr Greek". It's just that some ppl don't understand the meaning of it and the purpose of their org. The problem is they don't understand that "Jr Greek" does not necessarily mean "Fraternity/Sorority". That's why you see Kappa Leaguers/Rhoers Club/Sigma Betas with canes and Omega Gents with gold boots, it's just some stuff that aint right.

Really, the members should have clearly explained what it is and what it is not because it's their program. And they should be correcting those who aren't clear. Explaining Delta G.E.M.S., Kappa League, Rhoers, et. al. as "Jr. Greek" organization not only gives the wrong impression, it's not accurate.

And the folks allowing them to have calls, line names and numbers need to be checked too.

DSTCHAOS · #10 06-05-2007, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by killakam11

I feel you, but don't think that there is any problem with the term "Jr Greek". It's just that some ppl don't understand the meaning of it and the purpose of their org. The problem is they don't understand that "Jr Greek" does not necessarily mean "Fraternity/Sorority". That's why you see Kappa Leaguers/Rhoers Club/Sigma Betas with canes and Omega Gents with gold boots, it's just some stuff that aint right.

12dn94dst explained what these mentoring groups are REALLY about/for and did it so eloquently. But I see you're resistant to the reality of the matter:

Within the context of the Greekdom, there's no such thing as "Jr. Greek." You're either Greek or you aren't. If you are too young to be in a GLO, you darn sure aren't in one or in a "Jr." version of one.

This is why mentoring organizations should be treated like YMCA-type groups. There is no need for any GLO formatting because the skills that many of us bring to the table aren't unique to our memberships in GLOs. I have always refused to teach young ladies, who I mentor through Delta, to emulate the traditions of GLOs. If they want to learn discipline and technique through stepping, they can do so if their school or church have a step team. If they want to be in a sorority, they can learn what that entails when they research it and/or get to college. Do I care which sorority they want to be in (if any)? NO.

DSTCHAOS · #11 06-05-2007, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 12dn94dst

Can we be clear on something? Delta G.E.M.S., Sigma Beta, Kappa League, et. al., ARE NOT "Jr. Greek" organizations. They are enrichment/mentoring programs, grooming you to be better young adults and better people.

Thank you!

killakam11 · #12 06-05-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

killakam11--not much discreet about that.

One might think so, but that's actually my HS football/baseball number. Good observation, though. Anyway, thanks for the advice. Oh, Blue Reign, I did consider other orgs, but I still want to be apart of said Frat.

AlphaFrog · #13 06-05-2007, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by killakam11

I still want to be apart of said Frat.

I thought you liked them. Why do you want to be apart from people you like?

poeticace · #14 06-09-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar08

Yes, youth auxiliary participation should stop completely once you hit college, as you should now be eligible to join a D9 org. Or will be, once you become a sophomore.

Is that standard everywhere for all D9 orgs? Because I've seen (second-semester) freshmen crossing for more than one org, but is that just those particular orgs?

Senusret I · #15 06-09-2007, 05:29 PM

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Is that standard everywhere for all D9 orgs? Because I've seen (second-semester) freshmen crossing for more than one org, but is that just those particular orgs?

Some NPHC orgs allow second-semester freshmen to join... I know personally Alphas and AKAs who did.

Also, it depends on the school. Many HBCUs do not allow freshman to join NPHC orgs.