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[adpiucf]

Pi Kappa Phi is suspended until 2011 (I just read the online Central Florida Future). All of the current collegians were given alumni status. (Pi Kapp was not a housed fraternity on Greek Row at UCF).

I am so bummed. I was at their installation banquet-- they had such a strong colonization and were such a great group of guys when I was a student.

[TrueBlueKappa]

Wow... that is so sad. All the Pi Kapps I knew were great guys. Devastating.

How many fraternities are we going to lose? It seems like every time I turn around, another house has been suspended or had their charter pulled.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

Pi Kappa Phi is suspended until 2011 (I just read the online Central Florida Future). All of the current collegians were given alumni status. (Pi Kapp was not a housed fraternity on Greek Row at UCF).

I am so bummed. I was at their installation banquet-- they had such a strong colonization and were such a great group of guys when I was a student.

Originally Posted by TrueBlueKappa

Wow... that is so sad. All the Pi Kapps I knew were great guys. Devastating.

How many fraternities are we going to lose? It seems like every time I turn around, another house has been suspended or had their charter pulled.

Was the suspension extended? According to the F&SL, 4/18/2007 Pi Kappa Phi was suspended until May 15, 2007.

And not just CFU fraternities have been suspended or on probation. Zeta Tau Alpha is on Restrictive Probation until the end of fall of 2007.

[adpiucf]

The Future (the school newspaper) reported the Pi Kapp suspension was thru 2011 and all of the members were given alumni status.

UCF sorority alumnae, are you thinking what I'm thinking? (I'm thinking... who's left to do homecoming?)

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

UCF sorority alumnae, are you thinking what I'm thinking? (I'm thinking... who's left to do homecoming?)

KSig, LXA and ATO are still large chapters.

But I've also heard that a lot of the fraternities that were considered small chapters when we were in school are now large chapters. Phi Delt, Beta, DU, Theta Chi and a few others have grown a lot.

[UCFStefanie]

A lot of the fraternities have grown. I think Greek Life still has a way of classifying which are large and which are small for Greek Week and Homecoming purposes but they have grown quiet a bit!

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

The Future (the school newspaper) reported the Pi Kapp suspension was thru 2011 and all of the members were given alumni status.

UCF sorority alumnae, are you thinking what I'm thinking? (I'm thinking... who's left to do homecoming?)

Was the article in The Future after the FS&L report? Not saying that the article isn't correct, but it seems odd that Central Florida's Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life isn't up to date. And for what it is worth, they still have Pi Kappa Phi listed under IFC chapters. Granted, when you click on the chapter link it says PIKAPPUCF.COM WILL BE BACK SOON! And if you click on the star, it takes you the national website.


Question for Central Florida NPC folk. (Or anyone else, for that matter, who might know.) During recruitment, does Panhellenic (say in the recruitment guide) note which chapters are on probation and for how long? (type and reason too?) The reason I ask is that usually, most IFCs require a chapter on probation (usually some sort of social probation) to do so - i.e. make it known to potential pledges. And more often than not, it is published in the rush guide too.

[TrueBlueKappa]

The article is in the most recent issue of the paper.

[adpiucf]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Was the article in The Future after the FS&L report? Not saying that the article isn't correct, but it seems odd that Central Florida's Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life isn't up to date. And for what it is worth, they still have Pi Kappa Phi listed under IFC chapters. Granted, when you click on the chapter link it says PIKAPPUCF.COM WILL BE BACK SOON! And if you click on the star, it takes you the national website.


Question for Central Florida NPC folk. (Or anyone else, for that matter, who might know.) During recruitment, does Panhellenic (say in the recruitment guide) note which chapters are on probation and for how long? (type and reason too?) The reason I ask is that usually, most IFCs require a chapter on probation (usually some sort of social probation) to do so - i.e. make it known to potential pledges. And more often than not, it is published in the rush guide too.

The article came out yesterday.

I think the web sites for the orgs and the Greek Life web sites should be taken with a grain of salt. Each year, those groups get all new webmasters, officers, etc, and updates in the summertime are rare, except for the dates for recruitment, perhaps.

None of the UCF sororities in the last 10 years has been on any kind of probation that would affect them in the fall from having a successful recruitment. This isn't to say the chapters haven't had internal bumps in the road or probationary terms to meet, but they have not been handed down in such a way that would impact their ability to recruit and retain quality members. I've never heard of a UCF sorority having to disclose anything of the sort to nonmembers or PNMs, for that matter. The matters are considered internal and handled as such. I know of chapters that have had social probations and such-- this is usually handled in the spring time. If any additional terms fall over into the fall term, they usually are in the form of having to hold workshops. It makes no sense to punish the new members for actions that came before their time.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

The article came out yesterday.

I think the web sites for the orgs and the Greek Life web sites should be taken with a grain of salt. Each year, those groups get all new webmasters, officers, etc, and updates in the summertime are rare, except for the dates for recruitment, perhaps.

None of the UCF sororities in the last 10 years has been on any kind of probation that would affect them in the fall from having a successful recruitment. This isn't to say the chapters haven't had internal bumps in the road or probationary terms to meet, but they have not been handed down in such a way that would impact their ability to recruit and retain quality members. I've never heard of a UCF sorority having to disclose anything of the sort to nonmembers or PNMs, for that matter. The matters are considered internal and handled as such. I know of chapters that have had social probations and such-- this is usually handled in the spring time. If any additional terms fall over into the fall term, they usually are in the form of having to hold workshops. It makes no sense to punish the new members for actions that came before their time.

Makes sense now. "The Office of Student Conduct suspended Pi Kappa Phi fraternity until 2011 after the group held a social function while already on a previous suspension."

I agree about web sites being taken with a grain of salt. I've just been impressed with how UCF makes this information public and lists it on their website. And for the most part, being rather current as well.

It makes no sense to punish the new members for actions that came before their time.

And I guess this is my point. Shouldn't PNMs know if a chapter is on probation? It just seems like it would be fair to all the PNMs to know what to expect socially their first semester. Especially since the probation is until the end of fall 2007.

"Restrictive Probation: The following organization is not permitted to host events involving alcohol. Any house parties, mixers, socials, events or recruitment activities must be alcohol-free (dry)."

[adpiucf]

I don't know anything about the situation of the sorority in question, but I know several alumnae members of the chapter, all of whom I greatly respect. I have no doubt the sorority will handle any internal issues with great tact and conduct recruitment with respect for its sisterhood and PNMs.

And no, I don't think PNMs need to know if a chapter is on probation if that probation does not affect them adversely... What I mean by this is that plenty of chapters go on probationary periods at any given time during the school year, and often the terms include submitting chapter minutes, holding additional membership workshops, etc. I don't think this is something that needs to be broadcast if it is already being dealt with. In the case of a probation where the chapter may not hold any kind of social events or participate in university events, then yes, a certain amount of disclosure might be deemed necessary. But in my experience, sororities are loathe to put chapters on this kind of probation in the fall because it can affect fall recruitment numbers and the budget set for the chapter when an expected number of PNMs are anticipated to help meet that budget and housing costs with their dues.

I don't think broadcasting "XYZ is on probation for hosting an unapproved social and now needs to have a workshop on the importance of meeting deadlines and submitting paperwork" does anything for anyone. If XYZ is on social probation, they can put a positive spin on it by promoting "Sisterhood Semester" and a huge variety of activities designed to celebrate their organization. It just depends... I would expect that advisers and nationals would work with the chapter officers to help a chapter complete a probation and if it is expected to affect recruitment, to find a "spin" to help them remain competitive.

[ZTAngel]

Originally Posted by TSteven

And I guess this is my point. Shouldn't PNMs know if a chapter is on probation? It just seems like it would be fair to all the PNMs to know what to expect socially their first semester. Especially since the probation is until the end of fall 2007.

"Restrictive Probation: The following organization is not permitted to host events involving alcohol. Any house parties, mixers, socials, events or recruitment activities must be alcohol-free (dry)."

My chapter has it handled. End of story. But thanks for everyone's concern.

Can we not talk about this anymore?