Random: Recruitment

SWTXBelle · #1 05-31-2007, 08:25 AM

I was an advisor back in the bad old days of bid matching by hand. I am so glad it is computerized now, and that quota additions exist. Cross-cutting was very real, and heart-breaking.

carnation · #2 05-31-2007, 08:28 AM

Oh, you are so right that it was real. I can remember sitting in one bid-matching session in Mississippi...there were several unmatched girls because due to the quota, sororities just ran out of space for more. Several times that year, I would see girls who had barely made it into their groups and they were acting very superior about being an ABC and I'd think, "You don't know how very close you came to not being one, jerk."

DeltaBetaBaby · #3 05-31-2007, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I was an advisor back in the bad old days of bid matching by hand. I am so glad it is computerized now, and that quota additions exist. Cross-cutting was very real, and heart-breaking.

But it is not being "cross-cut". There is this myth out there that if you are on a chapters top bid list, but you put them as #2, and the group you have as #1 puts you on their second bid list, you will end up without a bid (assuming only two chapters on pref night). That is just not the case. If you end up without a bid, it is because you were too low on BOTH chapters' bid lists. I know that is a a harder thing for PNM's to face, but as we discussed above, if you are on a chapter's first bid list, you stay there until you are matched there or elsewhere.

TSteven · #4 06-01-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

But it is not being "cross-cut". There is this myth out there that if you are on a chapters top bid list, but you put them as #2, and the group you have as #1 puts you on their second bid list, you will end up without a bid (assuming only two chapters on pref night). That is just not the case. If you end up without a bid, it is because you were too low on BOTH chapters' bid lists. I know that is a a harder thing for PNM's to face, but as we discussed above, if you are on a chapter's first bid list, you stay there until you are matched there or elsewhere.

Isn't that what "cross-cut" refers to? The PNM is cut (released) from all of her preference chapters because she never moved onto any of the chapters' first bid list. Thus she was *cut across the board* - i.e. cross-cut.

AlphaFrog · #5 06-01-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TSteven

Isn't that what "cross-cut" refers to? The PNM is cut (released) from all of her preference chapters because she never moved onto any of the chapters' first bid list. Thus she was *cut across the board* - i.e. cross-cut.

No...that's just CUT.

Cross cut is when the PNM went to two prefs, and then supposedly gets cut because of the order she ranked them in.

lyrelyre · #6 06-01-2007, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

No...that's just CUT.

Cross cut is when the PNM went to two prefs, and then supposedly gets cut because of the order she ranked them in.

It's not cut, so much as failing to match.

AlphaFrog · #7 06-01-2007, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lyrelyre

It's not cut, so much as failing to match.

You say tomato, I say tomahto...either way, they're bidless.

ForeverRoses · #8 06-01-2007, 11:10 AM

hmm- I remember a girl from my dorm freshman year would tell anyone that would listen that she was cross-cut from her first two choices and that's why she ended up where she was (her sorority was good, but not a "top tier"). We always just thought she was trying to make herself feel better, so we would ignore her. Now I wonder if she really was cross-cut. Hmm.

Either way, she was annoying.

lyrelyre · #9 06-01-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

You say tomato, I say tomahto...either way, they're bidless.

Not necessarily. If they have maximized their options and the campus guarantees bids they will be placed. That is what recruitment advisors do at bid matching.

SWTXBelle · #10 06-01-2007, 11:27 AM

Cross-cut as I use it ocurs (or used to) when a girl is ranked on both (or all) sororities' SECOND bid list. It is possible that both of her pref parties rank her on their second bid list, and if she doesn't advance far enough in either one - she's bidless.
Let's hope with all the improvements this is now no longer common.

Soliloquy · #11 07-16-2007, 05:06 PM

Sorry to bump this, but I'm still kind of confused on the "cross-cut myth."

I was talking to a recent alum about getting a rec and she told me how a girl in her pledge class got cross-cut, I also heard this from another girl who is a current active.

So according to all of the replies, cross-cutting is really just being cut because you were ranked too low on the list and your name just wasn't reached by the time ABC reached quota? Or something like that?

Obviously, there is nothing a PNM can do about this, but it's just another thing for me to worry about