D9 stereotyping..

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by proud2bSigma

Its hard being a full figured woman especially when you are a member of a d9. Its also very difficult to hear my sorors get angry when someone makes a comment about SGRHO being for big women. I know most people think that being fat means you are unattractive so that is why everyone is up in arms about the so called sterotypes. What I would like to hear is instead of my smaller sorors taking these comments as a insult, say So what I have some full-figured sorors but we are all beautiful.

Lets not let these comments divide us into "the attractive SGRHOS" and "the unattractive SGRHOS" We all LOOK GOOD trust me

Well said soror. And let's not forget that there are full figured women in ALL the D9 sororities and in the African American community in general. However these ladies are dealing with their weight...whether they are proud to be big and beautiful or whether they are trying to reduce their size, remember that the PERSON is inside and that person should be respected and never made fun of by anyone. Defend your sorors...don't let ANYONE say bad things about them! I don't care if the whole damn chapter has full figured women!!! Don't let the physical superficiality of many men (and women) be an imposition to the whole sorority...and this goes for all D9 organizations.

[Boom_Quack13]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Well said soror. And let's not forget that there are full figured women in ALL the D9 sororities and in the African American community in general. However these ladies are dealing with their weight...whether they are proud to be big and beautiful or whether they are trying to reduce their size, remember that the PERSON is inside and that person should be respected and never made fun of by anyone. Defend your sorors...don't let ANYONE say bad things about them! I don't care if the whole damn chapter has full figured women!!! Don't let the physical superficiality of many men (and women) be an imposition to the whole sorority...and this goes for all D9 organizations.

GREAT POST!!!!!!

[OneTimeSBX]

does anyone here feel it may be just a "female in a sorority" issue as well, and not just D9?

we just had two recent grads join our staff. they are both in sororities, very attractive girls, well spoken and educated...but the first thing i heard about both of them was "hey, that new girl so-and-so is a sorority girl". i think with the release of the girls gone wild videos, non-black females in GLO's are stereotyped as well... all the guys started making out of the way comments, and i felt it was wrong to assume they were a certain way just because of being in a sorority...

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

does anyone here feel it may be just a "female in a sorority" issue as well, and not just D9?

we just had two recent grads join our staff. they are both in sororities, very attractive girls, well spoken and educated...but the first thing i heard about both of them was "hey, that new girl so-and-so is a sorority girl". i think with the release of the girls gone wild videos, non-black females in GLO's are stereotyped as well... all the guys started making out of the way comments, and i felt it was wrong to assume they were a certain way just because of being in a sorority...

This issue is by no means a D9 only issue. I was just addressing a specific stereotype...just one of many that women in D9 orgs have to deal with. And yes, not only do we have to deal with NPHC stereotypes but we also have to deal with "greek" stereotypes and prejudices in general. People who know nothing about the NPHC and other BGLO's automatically think of "girls gone wild," popular fraternity movies, and the new one on the block..."dorm porn" which is supposedly filmed at frat houses during frat parties. So unfortunately the stereotypes affiliated with the predominently caucasian sororities and fraternities add to the prejudice against us and every sorority and fraternity member.

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

This issue is by no means a D9 only issue. I was just addressing a specific stereotype...just one of many that women in D9 orgs have to deal with. And yes, not only do we have to deal with NPHC stereotypes but we also have to deal with "greek" stereotypes and prejudices in general. People who know nothing about the NPHC and other BGLO's automatically think of "girls gone wild," popular fraternity movies, and the new one on the block..."dorm porn" which is supposedly filmed at frat houses during frat parties. So unfortunately the stereotypes affiliated with the predominently caucasian sororities and fraternities add to the prejudice against us and every sorority and fraternity member.

whats interesting, and maybe this is only because i associate with more black people, is the fact that the caucasian stereotypes usually involve drinking/partying/taking tops off, etc. the D9 stereotypes i hear about are mostly looks/personality/intelligence. it is a shame that the D9 stereotypes are not things that can be "outgrown", but personality and physical traits...

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

whats interesting, and maybe this is only because i associate with more black people, is the fact that the caucasian stereotypes usually involve drinking/partying/taking tops off, etc. the D9 stereotypes i hear about are mostly looks/personality/intelligence. it is a shame that the D9 stereotypes are not things that can be "outgrown", but personality and physical traits...

So I wonder are any of us (on GC) who are associated with what seems the more positive of the traits that people think we possess. The reason I ask is b/c before I ever expressed any interest in sororities people would assume that I wanted to be an AKA or a Delta. I would never confirm or deny, but I was just wondering if there are positives that have been attached to you as well. Although people should move beyond what they think the typical 'ABC' or 'XYZ' looks or acts.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

So I wonder are any of us (on GC) who are associated with what seems the more positive of the traits that people think we possess. The reason I ask is b/c before I ever expressed any interest in sororities people would assume that I wanted to be an AKA or a Delta. I would never confirm or deny, but I was just wondering if there are positives that have been attached to you as well. Although people should move beyond what they think the typical 'ABC' or 'XYZ' looks or acts.

yes, I have heard people (greeks and non-greeks) say that we are intelligent, sophisticated, professional, very independent, ladylike, cool with everybody (greek and non-greek), never put other NPHC sororities down, and do a great deal of community service despite our smaller size.

[IncontRHOllable]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

So I wonder are any of us (on GC) who are associated with what seems the more positive of the traits that people think we possess. The reason I ask is b/c before I ever expressed any interest in sororities people would assume that I wanted to be an AKA or a Delta. I would never confirm or deny, but I was just wondering if there are positives that have been attached to you as well. Although people should move beyond what they think the typical 'ABC' or 'XYZ' looks or acts.

Soror Rhoyaltempest answered exactly what I would say. However, I must agree with Sistergreek who said that she hears the positive stereotypes much less than she hears the negative stereotypes. It seems to me that its the negative stereotypes that drive some prospects to steer clear of some orgs and pursue others. I am hoping (may be false hope) that we in greekdom can move beyond the negative stereotypes and stop perpetuating them by tearing down eachother by speaking negatively about one another. If you just look at Youtube you can see some of the D9 members post such hateful nasty things about each other and why is that? It must cease.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by OneTimeSBX

whats interesting, and maybe this is only because i associate with more black people, is the fact that the caucasian stereotypes usually involve drinking/partying/taking tops off, etc. the D9 stereotypes i hear about are mostly looks/personality/intelligence. it is a shame that the D9 stereotypes are not things that can be "outgrown", but personality and physical traits...

I'm not sure I understand you on this one. Can you please explain?

[OneTimeSBX]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

I'm not sure I understand you on this one. Can you please explain?

i am going to go on and use black and non-black to differentiate between the sororities...

well, when you hear about the non-black sororities, like the girls on the "girls gone wild" video, we pretty much all think of the same "type" of girl. there may be some black girls on there, ive never really felt the need to watch...but from what i hear my non-black coworkers say about the non-black sorority girls, its she is a lush/freak/takes her top off/sleeps around. later, these same girls clean up nice and have a tea party. eventually, nobody mentions the fact that "Barbara" who is in her 40's now used to be that same alcoholic topless wonder. she "outgrew" her sorority ways, settled down, had some kids and bought a house.

now, my godmother, who is an XYZ, is still being considered stuck up/prissy/etc. even though she pledged XYZ back in '77. she is a professional educated woman with a family now...why should she still be stereotyped because of the type of sorority she pledged? im not talking about the stereotypes that could be considered positive, please group me with smart/pretty/popular people anytime!

why is it that the D9 stereotypes that stick and that people remember are the negative ones? shouldnt it be the same all across the board?