Miss Universe 2007

[tinydancer16]

Originally Posted by OTW

You don't really see contestants from Asia frequently as finalists.

Actually that's not entirely true, there's almost always a finalist from Asia. Last year the first runner up was from Japan. Indonesia was top ten in 05 and India was top ten in 04. In 03 Japan was fourth runner up. In 02 China was second runner up and India was top ten. In 01 India was fourth runner up and was the overall winner in 2000.
That being said, I thought Japan was adorable tonight, even though I was very on the fence about her dress and the way she worked it. USA's fall was extremely unfortunate, if it hadn't been for that she would've had the crown in the bag. Her overall package was flawless and I know first-hand that she is incredibly endearing in person. It was an interesting night...

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by tinydancer16

Actually that's not entirely true, there's almost always a finalist from Asia. Last year the first runner up was from Japan. Indonesia was top ten in 05 and India was top ten in 04. In 03 Japan was fourth runner up. In 02 China was second runner up and India was top ten. In 01 India was fourth runner up and was the overall winner in 2000.
That being said, I thought Japan was adorable tonight, even though I was very on the fence about her dress and the way she worked it. USA's fall was extremely unfortunate, if it hadn't been for that she would've had the crown in the bag. Her overall package was flawless and I know first-hand that she is incredibly endearing in person. It was an interesting night...

Really, how do you know Rachel? Never mind. I guess you know her from competing in pageants I just saw a past post.

Personally, she couldn't hold a candle to the other girls. I think she was a good contestant, but only top five b/c of Trump's involvement. And, this is coming from someone who is from her hometown. She was just ehhhh to me. Japan rocked that dress. It was so un-pageant-like. Thank goodness for some originality! I get so sick of those cookie-cutter dresses year after year.

I think what OTW was trying to say was that you don't see the an Asian domination like that exhibited by the Latin American contestants in this pageant.

I think you have WAYYYYYYY too much time on your hands OR you have WAYYYYYYY too much time on your hands. Who the heck takes the time to pull statistics like that? Never mind, I see that you are one of those "Brandi Rae"-types.

[tinydancer16]

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

Really, how do you know Rachel? Never mind. I guess you know her from competing in pageants I just saw a past post.

Personally, she couldn't hold a candle to the other girls. I think she was a good contestant, but only top five b/c of Trump's involvement. And, this is coming from someone who is from her hometown. She was just ehhhh to me. Japan rocked that dress. It was so un-pageant-like. Thank goodness for some originality! I get so sick of those cookie-cutter dresses year after year.

I think what OTW was trying to say was that you don't see the an Asian domination like that exhibited by the Latin American contestants in this pageant.

I think you have WAYYYYYYY too much time on your hands OR you have WAYYYYYYY too much time on your hands. Who the heck takes the time to pull statistics like that? Never mind, I see that you are one of those "Brandi Rae"-types.

Yes ma'am I am a pageant girl! Don't know who Brandi Rae is and I couldn't figure it out with a quick google search, so I'll just choose not to be offended and hope that's how you meant it (unless you care to elaborate)
I know more or less what OTW was trying to say, but the fact of the matter is that when it comes to powerhouse areas Asia is actually very much up there, they consistently send some very beautiful, capable women who do extremely well. However, one has to understand that the Latin American contestants do better because they are better prepared: pageants are a bigger deal there than pretty much anywhere else. Miss winners in Latin America are treated like celebrities unlike in other countries. They have the full package of being beautiful, having a killer wardrobe and having the full support of a country to get them ready.
As for Rachel, sorry but she was there almost purely of her own merit, not because of Trump -I say "almost" merely because she does have a leg up on being from a country who, despite lack of countrywide pageant love, can prepare her adequately for world-wide competition. And have you looked at her resume recently? I didn't see anyone who held a candle...sorry. The crown was her's to lose.
And I don't so much have way too much time on my hands as I have uncanny knack for remembering pretty much useless facts like who won which pageants -I only had to look up a few of those years and it only took me about thirty seconds because I knew exactly where to look

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by tinydancer16

Yes ma'am I am a pageant girl! Don't know who Brandi Rae is and I couldn't figure it out with a quick google search, so I'll just choose not to be offended and hope that's how you meant it (unless you care to elaborate)
I know more or less what OTW was trying to say, but the fact of the matter is that when it comes to powerhouse areas Asia is actually very much up there, they consistently send some very beautiful, capable women who do extremely well. However, one has to understand that the Latin American contestants do better because they are better prepared: pageants are a bigger deal there than pretty much anywhere else. Miss winners in Latin America are treated like celebrities unlike in other countries. They have the full package of being beautiful, having a killer wardrobe and having the full support of a country to get them ready.
As for Rachel, sorry but she was there almost purely of her own merit, not because of Trump -I say "almost" merely because she does have a leg up on being from a country who, despite lack of countrywide pageant love, can prepare her adequately for world-wide competition. And have you looked at her resume recently? I didn't see anyone who held a candle...sorry. The crown was her's to lose.
And I don't so much have way too much time on my hands as I have uncanny knack for remembering pretty much useless facts like who won which pageants -I only had to look up a few of those years and it only took me about thirty seconds because I knew exactly where to look

If you can't manage to find out who Brandirae is on your own, I am not going to explain it to you...

<---------Don't really care about the ins and outs of pageants. Was making comments based on personal opinion... I do know that resumes seem to have little correlation with actual pageant results. Keep telling yourself that it's a scholarship program

C'mon. You don't really believe all of the shit coming from your mouth, do you? On second thought, don't answer that. Anything you say will just be heard as blah-blah-blah blah-blah.

[tinydancer16]

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

If you can't manage to find out who Brandirae is on your own, I am not going to explain it to you...

<---------Don't really care about the ins and outs of pageants. Was making comments based on personal opinion... I do know that resumes seem to have little correlation with actual pageant results. Keep telling yourself that it's a scholarship program

C'mon. You don't really believe all of the shit coming from your mouth, do you? On second thought, don't answer that. Anything you say will just be heard as blah-blah-blah blah-blah.

Wow. Obviously you won't want to hear what I have to say but I can't help myself because you've hit on a few of my biggest pageant pet peeves and if you don't care fine, but maybe I can teach someone else something.
First of all, the Miss Universe/Miss USA pageants do not claim to be scholarship programs, never have and I sincerely doubt that they ever will. Miss America is the scholarship program and it is the single largest provider of scholarship for women in America. You can try and make that factoid go away by belittling it all you want, I'll just take the two thousand, five hundred dollars that I've won so far this year, by doing something that I enjoy, and go pay off a little bit more of my college tuition.
Secondly, if you're competing in Miss Universe Org or Miss America Org your resume matters, I've done both and I know. Can you win with a less than stellar resume? Yes, but it certainly decreases your chances and you'd better be a hell of a talker and walker. I don't know about other systems, but for these two you have to be a well rounded young woman to win.
And thirdly, because I could hear the disdain dripping from your post, I would simply like to ask if you've ever competed in pageants before? If you have then I would like to say I'm sorry that you had what must've been such an unpleasant experience to turn you off so much to them. However if you haven't then how dare you pass judgment on something for which you have no inside knowledge? I have met more kind, talented and motivated women competing in pageants than I have anywhere else. These women will go above and beyond the call of duty and so far out of their way for one another it's unbelievable. I have found a way to dance on stage, one of my greatest passions in life, and be able to be rewarded for it. I have learned how to stand in front of a panel of seven people having them rapid fire questions at me about politics, war, religion, drugs, arts, education and a myriad of other things that most of the general public will know nothing about -without breaking a sweat.
I could go on but I'm sure this is all "blah blah blah" to you, as you said so I guess I would just like to point out that there are some striking similarities between how people view sororities and how people view pageants...extreme stereotypes that in the end really aren't true in the vast majority of instances. It's hurtful to people when you pass judgment on something that is important to them without knowing the truth.