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[LambdaAlpha602]

QUOTE=kddani;1454651]According to the greeklicensing.com website (the company who does many GLO's licensing) you are not licensed for Kappa Delta, but you're selling Kappa Delta beads on your site. That's a legal no-no.

We are not selling the kappa delta beads. We never placed an order for any and under the part where you can buy it says pending approval. I came up with a design for the beads but will not have them made until we get approval!

REE1993,

Thanks for the comments

I never said it was personal and I understand business very well. I wanted to take some time and come to the largest online community for Greeks where it would be a good place to showcase what I am selling. I am not selling items on the forum but was more looking for feedback about them. If I got people to go to the site and check them out, then great.

I would have to disagree with you, If I could pay a monthly fee and advertise here I gladly would! I am in another business venture and we only advertise on different community forums as it is one of the best way to target market!

I am not sure how showing people in a target community a new product that is related to the same common interest is a way to turn them off.

I will agree with the spelling but because this was an informal setting I was not that concerned with checking for it

Hope this clears anything up!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by LambdaAlpha602

I never said it was personal and I understand business very well. I wanted to take some time and come to the largest online community for Greeks where it would be a good place to showcase what I am selling. I am not selling items on the forum but was more looking for feedback about them. If I got people to go to the site and check them out, then great.

I would have to disagree with you, If I could pay a monthly fee and advertise here I gladly would! I am in another business venture and we only advertise on different community forums as it is one of the best way to target market!

I am not sure how showing people in a target community a new product that is related to the same common interest is a way to turn them off.

I will agree with the spelling but because this was an informal setting I was not that concerned with checking for it

Hope this clears anything up!

You are right that you are not LITERALLY selling your items on GC. You cannot "add item to cart" through GC, nor paypal through GC...but you are MARKETING on GC, and if you try to say otherwise, you're just flat out lying. People get turned off here because GC is NOT a place to market. John used to have an ad at the top that he sold to Greek 101 or whichever store it was, and due to popular demand, he got rid of it, and no longer sells ads. That is why people are turned off by markting on here.

Also, people are turned off by the "false" advertising. Anyone can join and claim to be selling something as a "member" - but, in fact, if you join and over half of your posts are to market your product, I don't consider you a member.

Now, take the case of CrimsonTide4. She's an author who just happens to be the top poster on GC, so you better believe that she used GC to market her book. BUT - she's also been a member for YEARS and litereally has 10,000 other post that have nothing to do with her book, so people respect that.

[REE1993]

Originally Posted by LambdaAlpha602

I never said it was personal and I understand business very well. I wanted to take some time and come to the largest online community for Greeks where it would be a good place to showcase what I am selling. I am not selling items on the forum but was more looking for feedback about them. If I got people to go to the site and check them out, then great.

I would have to disagree with you, If I could pay a monthly fee and advertise here I gladly would! I am in another business venture and we only advertise on different community forums as it is one of the best way to target market!

I am not sure how showing people in a target community a new product that is related to the same common interest is a way to turn them off.

Your post is a solicitation. I am not going to argue semantics, but this is not an appropriate place for you, the "owner," to "spread the word". Consider taking a marketing class or reseach on how to market your small online business. Always ask a forum owner if and where it would be appropriate to make such posts.

Originally Posted by LambdaAlpha602

I will agree with the spelling but because this was an informal setting I was not that concerned with checking for it

Again, every post, advertisement or "FYI" is considered by readers and potential customers as "official". You should carefully read and edit any post, email or PM. It shows that you are professional, and that you care enough to communicate clearly, concisely, and intelligently. Guerilla or viral marketing is cheap and easy, but you have to appear professional.

Good luck.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by LambdaAlpha602

We are not selling the kappa delta beads. We never placed an order for any and under the part where you can buy it says pending approval. I came up with a design for the beads but will not have them made until we get approval!

If you are not selling them then they should not be on your website. You have no right to use the Kappa Delta name and letters on your website if you are not licensed. You need to remove them immediately or face trademark infringement problems.

[mystikchick]

Originally Posted by kddani

If you are not selling them then they should not be on your website. You have no right to use the Kappa Delta name and letters on your website if you are not licensed. You need to remove them immediately or face trademark infringement problems.

clearly your sound advice hasn't been taken to heart - while it isn't possible to order beads for KD (or Chi Omega, or Delta Gamma or Phi Mu or Tri-Delta or Zeta Tau Alpha), they're all still up there.

To the OP:

You've been given good advice, why not heed it? Especially as a new business owner, why expose yourself to unnecessary risk and liability issues that are easily avoidable? Not only is it bad business practice, it's plain stupid.

(my two cents at least)

[BethPowell]

I think they're cute.... I just hope you have the proper approval from the GLO's you have listed.
(I am not going to go and research it for myself - WAY too much else to do today!)

One spelling error that I caught - on the Phi Mu page it should be "quatrefoil," just so you know. ;-)

[BethPowell]

Oh yeah. One more thing to add....

The only way you can get lead poisoning from lead products is to PUT THE PIECE IN YOUR MOUTH. You aren't going to get poisoning from simply touching the piece.

I work with lead everyday in my stained glass pieces. Pure lead.

Just wanted to clarify.....

[LambdaAlpha602]

WOW,

I really wasn't trying to cause this much controversey. But I suppose everything is bound to cause some.

I have updated the site with the greek licesnsed product logo as well as the ability to purchase the zeta tau alpha beads.

Currently we have ben approved for chi omega, zeta tau alpha, and lambda chi alpha and you can buy these from the site. The others one I just put up with pending approval to showcase the items. If they need to be taken down before they are approved then I gladly will. Did not think it was a big deal especilly since they do not even exist yet!

Thanks for all the info, it is always good to have input about a new product!

I will be in contact with everyone who pmed me about how I can improve the products!

[KDAngel]

They look cool and all, but what in the world would you wear them to? Mardi Gras is about the only time I can deem them appropriate.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by KDAngel

They look cool and all, but what in the world would you wear them to? Mardi Gras is about the only time I can deem them appropriate.

I was wondering the same. And even during mardi gras, I wouldn't wear them because I'd want to drink and most likely drink a fair amount, not just a glass of wine with dinner.

[kddani]

Originally Posted by LambdaAlpha602

WOW,

I really wasn't trying to cause this much controversey. But I suppose everything is bound to cause some.

I have updated the site with the greek licesnsed product logo as well as the ability to purchase the zeta tau alpha beads.

Currently we have ben approved for chi omega, zeta tau alpha, and lambda chi alpha and you can buy these from the site. The others one I just put up with pending approval to showcase the items. If they need to be taken down before they are approved then I gladly will. Did not think it was a big deal especilly since they do not even exist yet!

Thanks for all the info, it is always good to have input about a new product!

I will be in contact with everyone who pmed me about how I can improve the products!

Surely if you're starting up a new business, you have an attorney. You should consider consulting him or her about your rights (or lack thereof) to display products that you are not currently licensed to sell. You are not licensed to use the name or any symbols of Kappa Delta sorority and you should remove anything that you are not licensed to sell immediately. It doesn't matter if you're actually selling them or not - you do not have the permission to use the name in any way, particularly in relation to your business. So please get the letters of the various orgs, including my own, that you do not have license to sell, off your webpage. I'm not sure how many different ways this has to be said.

Be a smart small business owner and educate yourself on the law or pay a lawyer to tell you these things.

(Disclaimer: Though I am a licensed attorney, I am not licensed attorney in your state and this in no way, shape or form should be taken as legal advice.)

[Rudey]

Surely you don't need someone to talk down to you. Keep on trucking greekbeads guy and don't worry about the haters that used to be moderators.

-Rudey

[KDAngel]

Originally Posted by kddani

Be a smart small business owner and educate yourself on the law or pay a lawyer to tell you these things.

(Disclaimer: Though I am a licensed attorney, I am not licensed attorney in your state and this in no way, shape or form should be taken as legal advice.)

I love it.

[Senusret I]

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