Northwestern Rush Documentary

[ChildoftheHorn]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

I always found it really funny when people who go to colleges that accept fewer than 20% of their applicants and charge $40K a year (with fewer than half of the students receiving any scholarships) have the chutzpah to call the Greek system "overwhelmingly elitist."

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I can see your point.
The problem is that there can be a lot of division based on money.
The school honestly is a school of higher end labels and if you are one of those people that are not part of that group....I could see why they would be a little ticked. I will say that the school, overall, does do a good job with making sure that everyone there can afford it and gives money when people ask for it.

One thing I have seen is that the school is divided with people "for greek" and people "against greek" with a small percentage in between. Though the sentiments lie with being anti-greek, he did represent some of the feelings and opinions of the school.

Honesty, I think that a lot of the anti-greek sentiments are from a lack of understanding and/or a bad experience.

The whole greek system represents some of the best students on campus, but it is definitely a closed and private system. Whenever there are groups like that (Masons, Elks, etc.) people start to think impossible things, usually not good ones. Most people who want to be in the system can IMO. It is stupid to have your heart set on one certain place because you will end up where you are meant to and be happier with it.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn

I can see your point.
The problem is that there can be a lot of division based on money.
The school honestly is a school of higher end labels and if you are one of those people that are not part of that group....I could see why they would be a little ticked. I will say that the school, overall, does do a good job with making sure that everyone there can afford it and gives money when people ask for it.

One thing I have seen is that the school is divided with people "for greek" and people "against greek" with a small percentage in between. Though the sentiments lie with being anti-greek, he did represent some of the feelings and opinions of the school.

Honesty, I think that a lot of the anti-greek sentiments are from a lack of understanding and/or a bad experience.

The whole greek system represents some of the best students on campus, but it is definitely a closed and private system. Whenever there are groups like that (Masons, Elks, etc.) people start to think impossible things, usually not good ones. Most people who want to be in the system can IMO. It is stupid to have your heart set on one certain place because you will end up where you are meant to and be happier with it.

My point wasn't about financial aid.

Look, I went to two universities that could be considered "peer institutions" of Northwestern. The things that were said about the Greek system being elitist, "buying one's friends," etc., were the exact same things we had to face up against during Recruitment. The irony--or maybe hypocrisy--of that situation is that it's hard to call someone else out for being elitist when you're attending an Ivy or another highly selective institution.

That's what I was discussing--and then you went off on this weird tangent.

[IvySpice]

wouldn't mind seeing a longer version of a documentary--maybe following several girls around, discussing the costs, etc.

Same here. I thought that it was well done and informative.

it's hard to call someone else out for being elitist when you're attending an Ivy

I take your point, but at the same time, there are different kinds of elitism, and there's nothing inconsistent about finding some more distasteful than others. The Ivy League is completely up-front that they pick most of the class based on who they think is going to go out and conquer the world with brains, talent, etc., and then round it out with athletes and legacies. If Anonymous is telling the truth, then her sorority not only judges women primarily on their looks and clothes, but also HIDES that fact and pretends that it's all about being BFFs.

Both my alma mater and Anonymous's sorority are elitist institutions, but I feel quite differently about them. Personally, I'm very comfortable with Ivy League faculty members judging my SAT scores to see whether I qualify for an academic challenge. I'm not comfortable with fellow college women judging my hotness to see whether I qualify to be BFF with Anonymous's sorority sisters, especially if they won't admit that they're doing it.