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Old 05-22-2007, 04:14 PM
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Die, poor people, die. We get it.
Does this mean you think health care is in fact a "right"?

Also, I'm pretty sure the "standard of care" is not set by the facility - minor nitpick on Kevin's point, but that's my understanding of the standard. I would be shocked if there is no action against the facility, given the description of the actions of the nursing staff.

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Wouldn't it be standard of care for the type of medicine, not necessarily for the type of facility? We talked about this quite a bit in class, about the standard of care being somewhat fixed. That may be more CT tort law though, so I could be wrong.
This has been the case for the cases I've worked on, which include states in every time zone. IANAL, obviously, but again - reasonable professional, blah blah blah.

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Old 05-22-2007, 04:50 PM
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Die, poor people, die. We get it.
Die lazy people, die.

If poor = lazy, a higher mortality rate is great for our economy. I'm not saying we round them up in concentration camps, but I'm certainly not going to advocate that society go out of its way to prolong the lives of people who refuse to contribute to it.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:08 PM
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Free health care is not a right.
I didn't say it was...however, an MI is an emergency, not a routine doctor's appointment. Ambulances don't pick and choose their patients based upon who has insurance. It's now illegal in MA to be uninsured anyway.
Healthcare should be a right anyway-everyone is entitled to try and prolong their life as much as possible. Having lived in a country with free healthcare and one where healthcare is privatized, I've seen both sides of the fence and I can see the need for improvement in both systems.
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centaur....devil's advocate...

why didn't he go to another facility?

**Kevin yo do have a point BTW**

or...why didn't (or did she) the nurse refer him to a facility that would probably see him?

It's a messed up situation no matter how u call it but somewhere along the line one has to wonder what could have been done to save this guy's live...
I don't know why the nurse wouldn't call him an ambulance. From hearing all the horror stories of Fallon clinics, I'm not surprised though. The standard of care seems to be low.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:11 PM
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It's now illegal in MA to be uninsured anyway.

How does that work? That's pretty much a fee just for living. If I HAD to be insured, and my husband didn't work at a huge corperation with great insurance, we couldn't afford it. And I'm pretty sure we wouldn't qualify for Medicaid.
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Old 05-22-2007, 04:00 PM
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He doesn't have insurance. Nurse tells him there's nothing they can do because he's uninsured. Guy goes home, dead the next day.
centaur....devil's advocate...

why didn't he go to another facility?

**Kevin yo do have a point BTW**

or...why didn't (or did she) the nurse refer him to a facility that would probably see him?

It's a messed up situation no matter how u call it but somewhere along the line one has to wonder what could have been done to save this guy's live...
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:01 PM
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This is a horrible situation! That was so wrong of them to let that poor woman lie there in agony. Unfortunately, some hospitals have staff that have little to no patience and especially for repeat situations in which they feel aren't "life threatning". I'm pretty sure her family will sue someone or they may offer her family compensation to avoid bad press...
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Old 05-22-2007, 05:05 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me if a bunch of pain drug addicts start hitting this hospital complaining of chest paints, etc.
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