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05-22-2007, 01:11 AM
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I don't know. It's really hard for me to say. He's very straight forward so this makes him look very comfortable doing this, but a bra is made for a woman. I mean that's like a woman wearing a cup that's used for protecting a penis. I would think she was a little of her rocker just like ccutoff.
I just feel like the other members on here think I'm strange for thinking he's strange. I wear a bra because I'm a woman. He's a guy. How is it that there's nothing wrong with this? You seem to have a lot of knowledge about this. Help me understand, please.
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 Don't feel bad about it, because I and probably everyone else including ccutoff understand why you think he is strange. I know why you think so, its because this is new to you. Have you ever known any other guy who likes to wear bras other than ccutoff? The initial shock value of this is probably getting to you. I'm sure this is a new concept to some other people in this thread too, they are just quicker to be understanding at first I guess, while for you cheerfulgreek it might take some time to understand and accept what ccutoff does.
Yeah, the first time I saw a guy wearing a bra at work was shocking and I thought the guy was weird, etc, because my co-workers never warned us about guy shoppers like that. But now I have seen so many that ccutoff is just another one and it doesn't shock or wow me anymore, especially because ccutoff is nothing compared to others I have seen. I mean, at least ccutoff isn't wearing sleeveless tops and letting his bra straps peek out for the world to see, you know? That would be disturbing(and I have seen plenty of it).
But in the end, just think of it this way. It's a bra. Just a bra, nothing more, nothing less. Something that has 2 straps, 2 cups and a band. Something that can't even be seen most if not all of the time in ccutoff's case. He isn't hurting anyone, and its something that makes him happy. If it makes him happy, I am glad for him. As long as he isn't hurting anyone or anything else, I could care less. Like I said - its better him to do that rather than do drugs, child porn, pedophelia, etc... It could be much worse. And though society says that bras are for women, there are no hard ground rules or laws that state a bra is specifically for women. Society created the notion that bras are for only for women.
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05-22-2007, 01:16 AM
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You're right. I mean it could be worse I guess.
I just..I dunno, it's just really, really strange to me. I think he really needs psychological help. Seriously. It's just not normal, ya know?
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05-22-2007, 01:25 AM
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Hmm... well the thing is, who knows if the staff at a store I would try to get fitted/use the dressing rooms at would be as accepting and such as the staff you work with. They could be completely opposite... I think I will take it slow, but eventually I will get there.
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Originally Posted by cheerfulgreek
I don't know. It's really hard for me to say. He's very straight forward so this makes him look very comfortable doing this, but a bra is made for a woman. I mean that's like a woman wearing a cup that's used for protecting a penis. I would think she was a little of her rocker just like ccutoff.
I just feel like the other members on here think I'm strange for thinking he's strange. I wear a bra because I'm a woman. He's a guy. How is it that there's nothing wrong with this? You seem to have a lot of knowledge about this. Help me understand, please.
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You're right. I mean it could be worse I guess.
I just..I dunno, it's just really, really strange to me. I think he really needs psychological help. Seriously. It's just not normal, ya know?
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No offense taken cheerfulgreek, you seem like a nice girl. I know that this is just part of letting people know that I wear a bra. There is always going to be some people who don't get it right away. But honestly, thanks for your input in this thread. I am glad you have helped keep it alive, since FINALLY talking about my bra hobby after 18 months of silence to myself is not only liberating but also very fun and positive. It's been nothing short of spectacular. Talking about bras is just as fun as wearing them in my opinion
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05-22-2007, 01:33 AM
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o.k. I think you're a very positive person, because you don't get defensive which is the norm on this site  but did you ever get worried when you first started wanting to wear them? I mean for example, if I all of a sudden wanted to start wearing a jock strap, I would get really worried and I would think something was psychologically wrong with me. I would try and get help to see what the problem was. Do you see what I mean? You never ever thought that you could be gay? I mean never ever?
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05-22-2007, 01:44 AM
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o.k. I think you're a very positive person, because you don't get defensive which is the norm on this site  but did you ever get worried when you first started wanting to wear them? I mean for example, if I all of a sudden wanted to start wearing a jock strap, I would get really worried and I would think something was psychologically wrong with me. I would try and get help to see what the problem was. Do you see what I mean? You never ever thought that you could be gay? I mean never ever?
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Well at first I would just wear them in private at home. But that got old and I wanted more. I began to wear them when making a short trip to the store, or such. When I first started wearing bras to school, that was very tough. Yeah, I got worried. I would always walk by people and think "What if that person knew I had a bra on" and "This doesn't feel right... I'm a guy". But I liked wearing bras.
At first when I wore bras to school I would bail out before/in between class and take it off in the bathroom and throw it in my backpack. If I left it on in class, I would slope in my chair and make sure the chair's back covered all of my back, regardless of how many layers of clothes I had on. It was really uncomfortable and I would not move a muscle all class. I was that paranoid. Sure, psychologically stuff like that got to me at first, but then I knew that I was the only one who knew that I had a bra on, so I appeared normal and bra-less to everyone else. But my desire to wear a bra over rode any doubts and paranoia I had, and eventually I got more confident and comfortable wearing bras to school/everywhere that they became a part of my daily routine, I never bailed out and left the bra on all day. I gradually became more confident in wearing my bras. Wearing them in class and concealing it towards the end of the semester was hard once it got warmer(here in Texas it can get hot) but I happened to get by only being caught once by a random girl my age that I haven't seen since and it was a very positive experience.
Yes, at first I wondered if there was something wrong with me. I was a rather macho athletic guy who wore bras! But eventually, I knew that there wasn't, because its just a bra. AC Choppy put it best, its just a bra, and its not hurting anyone. It could be worse. On the plus side, wearing bras has helped make me more confident and self respectful of myself. Nothing negative has come out of this so far *knock on wood*
And no, the thought of me being gay has never crossed my mind, 100% honest. My family is very right wing conservative, and being gay is against my religion(I'm a Christian). It's nothing I would ever consider, I am proud to be heterosexual. I am very attracted to girls... have not once even been curious about guys. I would even say that wearing bras has made me even more heterosexual(if possible) than before.
But yeah, hope that answered your question. I could talk about this all day
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05-22-2007, 01:51 AM
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lol 
I'm laughing really hard about you trying to use the chair to hide the bra.
How did the girl catch you? What was her reaction?
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05-22-2007, 01:59 AM
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So what is it about wearing the bra that you like?
And what KIND do you wear? If you're only an A cup you can get away with wearing cute lacy bras without the uncomfortable wires, so i'm amazed to hear you say that you actually wore a PUSH-UP BRA? I'm trying to imagine how you hid that under your clothes...
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05-22-2007, 02:02 AM
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lol 
I'm laughing really hard about you trying to use the chair to hide the bra.
How did the girl catch you? What was her reaction?
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Yeah... I did that for a while and my butt would fall asleep. Wasn't fun, finally I was just like screw it and sat in the desk chair normally.
How I got caught... I was wondering that myself. It was a shuttle bus that transports people around campus. It was about 65 degrees, windy. Me and about 5 others were on that bus. I had on a hoodie and an undershirt. Normally when wearing this hoodie the bra outline doesn't show on my back unless I bend over or do something like that to get the hoodie to press against my back. Even then, you have to be looking somewhat hard to see the bra outline.
If I remember correctly, I was in the front of the shuttle on the left side, and the girl who caught me was 2 rows back and on the right side. I was reading something for a quiz, and I turned to glance out the window for about a second or two. She must have been staring at me or my paper, because this is the only time I ever exposed my back on the shuttle. We got off at our stop, and I got off before she did and continued to walk while reading the study guide. She kind of "jogged" up to me, and smiled. Not a grin, but a smile. I didn't know who she was, but I asked "What?" smiling back and she said "I think thats great honestly" and I said "What's great" and she said softly so others around couldn't hear "Your bra" and she continued to smile. I just kind of laughed back, was too shocked to say anything. She wasn't a bad looking girl either.
She took a right turn on the sidewalk to her building, and I was confused wondering how she could have found out. I guess I got careless, but hey, it wasn't bad at all, and I am glad that it happened. Hopefully when I get caught again its like that and not bad in any way.
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05-22-2007, 03:00 PM
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Society created the notion that bras are for only for women.
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Huh...and all this time, I thought that the notion that bras are for women comes from the fact that bras were created to cover and support breasts.
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05-22-2007, 03:13 PM
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Huh...and all this time, I thought that the notion that bras are for women comes from the fact that bras were created to cover and support breasts.
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Big Gulps huh?
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05-22-2007, 03:36 PM
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Oh, I know men can get breast cancer. And guys can also develop Gynecomastia. (I've had to help men get preauth for breast reduction surgery before.)
I just got a chuckle out of the idea that society is at fault for the presumption that bras are for women. Bras were invented for people to cover and support breasts. The majority of the time, the people who need that to be done are women. (And, of course, back when bras were invented, the idea of a man having/developing breasts would have been substantially less well known.)
Women generally wear bras out of necessity - the same purpose for which bras were invented. If a guy (or a woman who doesn't necessarily "need" one) wants to wear a bra for "fun," I don't really care one way or the other.
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05-22-2007, 03:51 PM
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Women generally wear bras out of necessity
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If I didn't have any, I wouldn't wear one...
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05-22-2007, 03:51 PM
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Huh...and all this time, I thought that the notion that bras are for women comes from the fact that bras were created to cover and support breasts.
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Oh, I know men can get breast cancer. And guys can also develop Gynecomastia. (I've had to help men get preauth for breast reduction surgery before.)
I just got a chuckle out of the idea that society is at fault for the presumption that bras are for women. Bras were invented for people to cover and support breasts. The majority of the time, the people who need that to be done are women. (And, of course, back when bras were invented, the idea of a man having/developing breasts would have been substantially less well known.)
Women generally wear bras out of necessity - the same purpose for which bras were invented. If a guy (or a woman who doesn't necessarily "need" one) wants to wear a bra for "fun," I don't really care one way or the other.
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Well, yeah, bras were designed and made for women. But men can wear them if they choose, there is no laws or rules or anything against it. Therefore, they are not only for women.
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05-22-2007, 03:53 PM
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Well, yeah, bras were designed and made for women. But men can wear them if they choose, there is no laws or rules or anything against it. Therefore, they are not only for women.
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There are no laws against women wearing a jockstrap and cup, either, but you couldn't pay me enough to do it.
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05-22-2007, 05:07 PM
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Well, yeah, bras were designed and made for women. But men can wear them if they choose, there is no laws or rules or anything against it. Therefore, they are not only for women.
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I never said that they were only for women. I did say that they were created to serve a specific purpose (supporting/covering breasts) and that society isn't making up some cumbersome rule whereby people would generally find it strange that someone who didn't need a bra for its intended purpose would wear one anyhow.
That said, I would also find it unusual if:
A woman wore a jockstrap and a cup.
A man wore a jockstrap and a cup regularly in situations outside what said jock and cup were designed for.
A person (male or female) wore a welders mask when not welding.
A person wore a bicycle helmet when not biking.
You get the idea. Is it possible that a person would simply enjoy wearing a bicycle helmet and therefore choose to wear it even when not necessary for its intended purpose? Sure. Would most people find it a bit unusual? I suspect so. Are there laws against wearing a bicycle helmet while not biking? Not that I'm aware of. Does that make it any less unusual? No.
I could not care less if you wear bras or not. I do not think that wearing bras makes you "gay." To tell you the truth, my opinion is that you wear bras b/c its something that you're not "supposed" to do. Somewhere in your subconcious you enjoy the fact that you're doing something unconventional that many people would find shocking. Does this bother me? No. Plenty of people do things to purposely be unconventional (ex - tattoos and body piercings, before they became so common. Dying hair purple, green, or any other color of the rainbow. Dressing goth.). Which doesn't bother me in the slightest - if we all looked/dressed/acted alike, it would get boring real fast. But, I do think that the "forbidden" or "unconventional" aspect of it is more the reason why you wear them vs. any "comfort" factor. (I've been wearing bras for 20+ years and know from firsthand experience that they aren't "comfortable.") Does it really matter to me exactly why you choose to wear them? No.
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