Lawmakers Find $21 a Week Doesn't Buy a Lot of Groceries

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Our government is one for people, not one for a particular religion, any religion or some moral persuasion. I think it's civilized, not Christian for society to care for those who truly cannot provide for themselves.

I think it's immoral for society to force its members to give of themselves to support others who simply choose not to work.

And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.

- Luke 11:9

It's even worse for those people nto to protect their own dignity. If the state could develop a comprehensive rehabilitation program, stop paying people to make babies, give all people in poverty a reasonable means out, then yes, I think we at some point have to be able to say "enough is enough."

Or maybe $21/week'll do?

See, that is why I truly respect your opinion, because of your level-headedness and even temper.

So, I see your above points and a few I am compelled to comment:

To much is given, much is expected.. And greater the responsibility... It is our duty and obligation to serve those who others may deem less deserving.

So a crackhead mother robbing people at gun point and chooses to smoke crack rather than rehab and get a job and an education, folks would find it easy to cast her aside... But the minute she changes, the very second she says no more, even if it is 70 X 70, even as a civilized society, we cannot refuse her. And believe me there are 1000s like her in every city.

Yes, you are right to wean folks off the welfare rolls. But, I don't think we can begin to fathom the public health costs it takes when we do that. We already have a crazy Health disparity in several states and it all aligns with poverty moreso than ethnicity.

And we are not talking about people with all their marbles in place. Many of them are have clinically psychological problems beyond depression or bipolar. A lot of young men have schizophrenia. And a lot of young women are suffering from psychosis. Psychotropic drugs cost money, then you cannot treat with a drug without lifestyle modification and how do you make someone like that make better choices with financial decisions?

I don't know, but you know what the duty is from the State. Could you please elaborate?

True individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.
~Franklin D. Roosevelt

And now we have turned this debate is a suitable discussion without all that personal emotions.