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Old 05-19-2007, 11:35 PM
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No, you do not know me, nor do you know my life experience.

You do not have permission to judge me or judge the quality of my faith. That alone is displeasing to God.

I simply stated that education is available to people in the most impoverished circumstances. Liz Murray, the daughter of herion addicts, was neglected and abused since infanthood. She was placed in foster care, where she was repeatedly assualted. And yet, somehow, She had the drive and the will to go to school, make good grades and get into Harvard. Flippin' HARVARD!

She didn't blame me for her circumstance. She didn't cry, "I can't do it because no one will help me". She made her life work. SHe took the crappy hand life dealt her and refused to let it hold her back.

You do not , I repeat, not, know me. You do not know what contributions I make to my community and you do not know where I sit with my Lord. Don't you judge me, it is not your place. I teach Sunday School, too, and also lead a ministry for teens in crisis. So keep your self-righteous rhetoric to yourself. You speak in hyperbole and and speak knowingly of what you know not.

And I agree, we are here for His glory. How is it glorifying Him to say, "I can't , it's too hard". If thats how you feel , you just go ahead and throw God's gift in His face. But I thank Him everyday, even when I buried a child, even when I thought I couldn't go on, I thanked Him and I got up, moved on and praised His name.

You do not know me, you have no right to judge me and I will respectfully ask you to not do so again. My soul is not impoverished, it is full, my cup runneth over. In the face of every pain I have suffered I stand here and tell you 'God is good'.

I still stand strong on what I said. An education is available to anyone with the will to obtain it.

The fact that you feel the need to cast aspersions on another's faith tells me that maybe you are not filled with the Spirit.
When I was a child I spoke as a child and I did childish things... But when I became an adult, I had to put childish things away...

If you know anything about me, you can search my posts. If you don't care, then hey, I just offer it up to you. But, you do not know me and your delluded descriptions of me is unfortunate. That's okay, various folks on GC think plenty things about me.

"They talked about Jesus Christ and you saw what they did to Him, they dayum sho are gonna talk about you" --My old pastor.

If you knew your history, it was illegal for my ancestors to obtain an education to read in the United States. How can you cavalierly state that ANYONE can obtain an education knowing this history? Be careful now, you my mother was water cannoned by the city's police department for marching for equality in education during the civil rights movement...

Yes, there are anecdotal exceptions to everyone who has had a poor life and obtained at "Harvard" education. I know that. But the vast majority of poor people who live in this country as being the first world country far exceed the nice cute anecdotal exceptions.

In fact, you have judged me with your anger. That is fine and you can persecute me too. I have held hands with the Devil had has all my numbers, but through my worst circles of Hell, it was God that delivered me and strengthened me in my most forsaken of hours. The last Being ever to give me a fighting chance. And there was a reason for that, which I am sharing with as many others as I can...

All people have suffered, this is true. But, children should not be made to bear that which is beyond their own control. And because we live in the United States and abide by a Consitution and a Bill of Rights, if we as citizens promote this stuff, then we should be about making that change. And when funding has been cut for programs to assist people, we cannot complain that there is an increase in criminality or health disparities, which in my experience usually ensues.

Should we all not be about trying to make it better than belittling those who have less than us? Is that in anyway judging you of your relationship with God? No. I think I am only trying to send you a powerful message because of my "gifts" given to me. Now, you can either heed that message or you can leave that message. Ultimately, you have free will and can make your own choice. And I am sorry your pain has caused you much distress. But, to let you know, you are somebody in God's eyes. You are worth all that before Him and He knows this. And I also do know that He is asking you to look beyond the surface and what you see. I don't know why I know this about you, but I know you are capable of many great things, wherever you are...

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Old 05-19-2007, 11:43 PM
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When I was a child I spoke as a child and I did childish things... But when I became an adult, I had to put childish things away...

If you know anything about me, you can search my posts. If you don't care, then hey, I just offer it up to you. But, you do not know me and your delluded descriptions of me is unfortunate. That's okay, various folks on GC think plenty things about me.

"They talked about Jesus Christ and you saw what they did to Him, they dayum sho are gonna talk about you" --My old pastor.

If you knew your history, it was illegal for my ancestors to obtain an education to read in the United States. How can you cavalierly state that ANYONE can obtain an education knowing this history? Be careful now, you my mother was water cannoned by the city's police department for marching for equality in education during the civil rights movement...

Yes, there are anecdotal exceptions to everyone who has had a poor life and obtained at "Harvard" education. I know that. But the vast majority of poor people who live in this country as being the first world country far exceed the nice cute anecdotal exceptions.

In fact, you have judged me with your anger. That is fine and you can persecute me too. I have held hands with the Devil had has all my numbers, but through my worst circles of Hell, it was God that delivered me and strengthened me in my most forsaken of hours. The last Being ever to give me a fighting chance. And there was a reason for that, which I am sharing with as many others as I can...

All people have suffered, this is true. But, children should not be made to bear that which is beyond their own control. And because we live in the United States and abide by a Consitution and a Bill of Rights, if we as citizens promote this stuff, then we should be about making that change. And when funding has been cut for programs to assist people, we cannot complain that there is an increase in criminality or health disparities, which in my experience usually ensues.

Should we all not be about trying to make it better than belittling those who have less than us? Is that in anyway judging you of your relationship with God? No. I think I am only trying to send you a powerful message because of my "gifts" given to me. Now, you can either heed that message or you can leave that message. Ultimately, you have free will and can make your own choice. And I am sorry your pain has caused you much distress. But, to let you know, you are somebody in God's eyes. You are worth all that before Him and He knows this. And I also do know that He is asking you to look beyond the surface and what you see. I don't know why I know this about you, but I know you are capable of many great things, wherever you are...

Stay blessed...

I am not talking about past history. Can you truly tell me of a prospective student water cannoned for attempting to go to University in the last 20 years? B/c your mom was treated cruelly, does that mean that young people today are not awarded financial aid based on color? If that is the case I stand corrected. I thought aid was awarded on the applicant, and did not realize there was a bias against black students.

I am talking about now, today, and I am also done talking to you. Your arguments are insulting and ridiculous.


I have no anger towards you, I have, however repeatedly asked you not to judge me or my faith. And still you have ignored my request.

Ignore.
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Old 05-20-2007, 12:10 AM
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I am not talking about past history. Can you truly tell me of a prospective student water cannoned for attempting to go to University in the last 20 years? B/c your mom was treated cruelly, does that mean that young people today are not awarded financial aid based on color? If that is the case I stand corrected. I thought aid was awarded on the applicant, and did not realize there was a bias against black students.

I am talking about now, today, and I am also done talking to you. Your arguments are insulting and ridiculous.


I have no anger towards you, I have, however repeatedly asked you not to judge me or my faith. And still you have ignored my request.

Ignore.
Young lady, I am asking you kindly to privately message me due to a communication error.

Please do it, because you will bury yourself with your words and there is no sense in that.

What I am saying to you personally, is you actually do have something valid to say however you are crowding with misconceptions about a great many things.

I am nearing 40 years old. Do you think I would want to speak to you after my Hell in a Doctorate program in Molecular Genetics? I am grown enough to ask for help and have the desire to learn from you. Besides, believe me, I do have PLENTY OF OTHER things I could be doing.

But, if you choose to HATE ME... Fine.

I still mean what I say.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:09 PM
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Young lady, I am asking you kindly to privately message me due to a communication error.

Please do it, because you will bury yourself with your words and there is no sense in that.

What I am saying to you personally, is you actually do have something valid to say however you are crowding with misconceptions about a great many things.

I am nearing 40 years old. Do you think I would want to speak to you after my Hell in a Doctorate program in Molecular Genetics? I am grown enough to ask for help and have the desire to learn from you. Besides, believe me, I do have PLENTY OF OTHER things I could be doing.

But, if you choose to HATE ME... Fine.

I still mean what I say.


I don't hate you, I asked you stop accusing me of saying anything but what I said which was anyone can go to college. I stand by it.

I have no anger, only frustration at your insistence on putting words into my mouth. I have never once typed an angry word. You seem to be getting really upset, though.

And don't speak to me condescendingly. I am older than you. "Young lady" wasn't appropriate. (but , honestly, how would you know that?)

All I asked is that I be allowed my opinion even if it differs from yours, but I can see this makes you very angry. I will stop posting on the topic and let you have the thread. Peace?

I am just repeating the same-old same-old anyway and who wants to re-read the same stuff? Lord knows I am tired of it. You can't change my mind and I can't change yours.

As for the PM, I don't think there was a misunderstanding. I understand where you on on the subjest, but I respectfully disagree.

P.S. Molecular Genetics??????? Holy cow! And I thought Comparative Literature was tough.
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Old 05-20-2007, 09:30 PM
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Show me how I accused you of anything but being your true self? What more can we expect from participants other than what is written on a public message board and you only gave personal anecdotal evidence as to your reasons why "anyone can go to college".

That was your reality. But, is your reality another's reality?

So, yes, what I did was QUESTIONED you and ask you what you meant by your comments. Have you answered them? And if I was of lesser mind, I found that you blamed me for questioning you. Then, you decided to slander me after I have been posting on GC for 7 years.

After that, Hayle yeah I am angry aside from that you stated some very biased stuff. Hey, but I guess I had that coming when I referred to my personal cultural reference, which I admire greatly, and that just shows your trustworthiness for any comments made in that respect especially in the AKA Ave...

As far as differing opinions. Well, my husband has a more colorful definition of how "opinions" should be viewed and they are similar to that of a body organ...

And I do not reside in the realm of stoic or strict understanding it is an occupational hazard. So, yes my mind can be changed with strong data, logical reasoning and persuasion. Most people do this tactic by communication. I am forced to do it in my career everyday.

Hey, I do not have a problem if you write to me where and why disagree with my comments and your reasons. But since you added emotional and personal language to your comments that caused you to fail to convey the true aspects of what you were trying to state. If you thought you did that, how come you use all that bolding?

Besides, Kevin explained his posts similarly and I totally disagree with some of his comments, but he never became personal, moreover, I respect him for the comments he said because he logically stated his reasons. Moreover, this issue is complex and requires communication.

And really, have you ever thought that maybe I do not comprehend what you are writing? People often read the tone from one's writing.

And I cannot make you feel condescension. All I can do is merely say something. Ultimately, you are the one who choses to interpret it and decide how you feel, then how to act on it...

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I don't hate you, I asked you stop accusing me of saying anything but what I said which was anyone can go to college. I stand by it.

I have no anger, only frustration at your insistence on putting words into my mouth. I have never once typed an angry word. You seem to be getting really upset, though.

And don't speak to me condescendingly. I am older than you. "Young lady" wasn't appropriate. (but , honestly, how would you know that?)

All I asked is that I be allowed my opinion even if it differs from yours, but I can see this makes you very angry. I will stop posting on the topic and let you have the thread. Peace?

I am just repeating the same-old same-old anyway and who wants to re-read the same stuff? Lord knows I am tired of it. You can't change my mind and I can't change yours.

As for the PM, I don't think there was a misunderstanding. I understand where you on on the subjest, but I respectfully disagree.

P.S. Molecular Genetics??????? Holy cow! And I thought Comparative Literature was tough.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:14 AM
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Show me how I accused you of anything but being your true self? What more can we expect from participants other than what is written on a public message board and you only gave personal anecdotal evidence as to your reasons why "anyone can go to college".

That was your reality. But, is your reality another's reality?

So, yes, what I did was QUESTIONED you and ask you what you meant by your comments. Have you answered them? And if I was of lesser mind, I found that you blamed me for questioning you. Then, you decided to slander me after I have been posting on GC for 7 years.

After that, Hayle yeah I am angry aside from that you stated some very biased stuff. Hey, but I guess I had that coming when I referred to my personal cultural reference, which I admire greatly, and that just shows your trustworthiness for any comments made in that respect especially in the AKA Ave...

As far as differing opinions. Well, my husband has a more colorful definition of how "opinions" should be viewed and they are similar to that of a body organ...

And I do not reside in the realm of stoic or strict understanding it is an occupational hazard. So, yes my mind can be changed with strong data, logical reasoning and persuasion. Most people do this tactic by communication. I am forced to do it in my career everyday.

Hey, I do not have a problem if you write to me where and why disagree with my comments and your reasons. But since you added emotional and personal language to your comments that caused you to fail to convey the true aspects of what you were trying to state. If you thought you did that, how come you use all that bolding?

Besides, Kevin explained his posts similarly and I totally disagree with some of his comments, but he never became personal, moreover, I respect him for the comments he said because he logically stated his reasons. Moreover, this issue is complex and requires communication.

And really, have you ever thought that maybe I do not comprehend what you are writing? People often read the tone from one's writing.

And I cannot make you feel condescension. All I can do is merely say something. Ultimately, you are the one who choses to interpret it and decide how you feel, then how to act on it...

I am still not sure how to reply to your anger. I 'bolded' once and didn't make "ginormous" letters like you did. And that clever quip from your husband about opinions being like, well, you know, WOW! I never heard that before! FUNNNNN-NNNNYYYY! So does that mean your opinion is like an arsehole, too, or is that reserved only for those who don't suck up to and agree with you?

You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:19 AM
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I am still not sure how to reply to your anger. I 'bolded' once and didn't make "ginormous" letters like you did. And that clever quip from your husband about opinions being like, well, you know, WOW! I never heard that before! FUNNNNN-NNNNYYYY! So does that mean your opinion is like an arsehole, too, or is that reserved only for those who don't suck up to and agree with you?

You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.
I thought you were ignoring me?
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Old 05-25-2007, 07:36 AM
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You denigrate me for suggesting that free education is available to people, no matter where they come from.

But then you think comments like this are just fine:

"I will ignore the rude commentary because I am working this interview:

I see you are nearly 25 years old and have an unstable career. You know sometimes in life, people just have to retool and go back to school.

Tell me something about yourself?"

By your own words, school is not accessible for many people. How could you suggest that an applicant 'go back to school'? Maybe they didn't have the advantages you have been afforded. According to you, only the wealthy can even afford to go to school. Shame on you for discriminating.

Your words are here for you to review. Dispute that.
You really just pulled this out of a suspected parody thread?
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