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Old 05-08-2007, 01:26 PM
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Here's an example of what I think you were looking for, James.
I was an alumna advisor, and one of our collegians was in trouble for having sex with a fraternity member on the fraternity's pool table, and another incident in a phone booth. When pulled up before standards, she said that her sex life was none of our business. Usually true, I replied. But when everyone, including your advisors, knows of your sex life because it is being conducted in public, then it is our business. Everyone at this small school knew she was a Gamma Phi, and she was hurting the entire sisterhood by her blatant disregard for the sorority's reputation. She stormed upstairs, with me following close behind to get her badge.
The problem wasn't that she was having sex. The problem was she was doing it on the Sigma Nu's pool table. And in the phone booth. And God knows where else . . .
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Old 05-08-2007, 04:59 PM
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It can all be boiled down to this:

Never do anything, in letters or out, that would give a GDI a bad impression of either your sorority or of Greek Life in general.
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Old 05-08-2007, 05:50 PM
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I disagree somewhat with the alcohol issue becuse it leads to worse problems.

If there is a sister who drinks herself into belligerence everytime she goes to anywhere that has alcohol in 100 yards, then on top of that, does things like disrobing in public, or becoming too public with her myriads of fraternity men. And everyone knows what group she's in, then yes I'd want to be able to get her out because her drinking makes her poor judgement ridiculously worse and people will associate her with her group and if I'm apart of that group and I don't do anything but stay home and study and help my mom then I still am labeled as "ho" or "skank" and people will laugh as I walk by in my letters when I've done nothing. The line has to be drawn somewhere. But it still definitely depends on the campus.
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Old 05-08-2007, 05:55 PM
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it's interesting that the question about fraternity men hasn't taken off - my brother said that with regards to wearing letters (encompassing appropriate behavior), they've been told you can't be doing any of the five 's's while wearing them:
showering
sex
sleep
stupid s**t (including public drunkenness)
and he forgot the fifth

but i feel like he makes it a point to ensure that all his public conduct, even when he's on duty as an RA, or at work, reflects well on his fraternity because they're trying hard to compete with the other groups on campus since they're the smallest, don't rely on sports teams for their membership and have no house, so every little bit counts is the impression i get from talking to him

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Old 05-08-2007, 07:57 PM
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It can all be boiled down to this:

Never do anything, in letters or out, that would give a GDI a bad impression of either your sorority or of Greek Life in general.
Like use the term GDI?

That set aside, I have huge issues with this statement. I was active at a small, very conservative campus, where I served as the president of College Dems and engaged in some pro-choice activism. I am sure that gave many people on campus a bad impression of my sorority. Are you implying I shouldn't have done it?
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:13 PM
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Old 05-08-2007, 08:59 PM
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Like use the term GDI?

That set aside, I have huge issues with this statement. I was active at a small, very conservative campus, where I served as the president of College Dems and engaged in some pro-choice activism. I am sure that gave many people on campus a bad impression of my sorority. Are you implying I shouldn't have done it?
With regards to the GDI, while in some areas it's seen as a negative, it's not always. Some "GDIs" use the term because they're not Greek but hang out among Greeks, etc. My mom has paddles.... er... "wall plaques" from guys who were GDIs and put Gamma Delta Iota on the paddle.
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:36 PM
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Like use the term GDI?

That set aside, I have huge issues with this statement. I was active at a small, very conservative campus, where I served as the president of College Dems and engaged in some pro-choice activism. I am sure that gave many people on campus a bad impression of my sorority. Are you implying I shouldn't have done it?

Depending on where you went to school, sure. And even then there are always people who are anti-choice or are not Democrats. If anything I think the pro-choice activism would spark more bad impressions than being a Democrat.

And what about being openly homosexual or bisexual within a fraternity/sorority? I'm sure that would cause controversy at some campuses. Some people think that shows a lack of morals.
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Old 05-08-2007, 09:58 PM
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Thats an interesting point. If your group has a policy of not discriminating by sexual preference, then it would be hard to expell a homosexual member that was sexually promiscious . . .

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Depending on where you went to school, sure. And even then there are always people who are anti-choice or are not Democrats. If anything I think the pro-choice activism would spark more bad impressions than being a Democrat.

And what about being openly homosexual or bisexual within a fraternity/sorority? I'm sure that would cause controversy at some campuses. Some people think that shows a lack of morals.
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:33 AM
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Thats an interesting point. If your group has a policy of not discriminating by sexual preference, then it would be hard to expell a homosexual member that was sexually promiscious . . .
If you were trying to get rid of him/her for blatant and public promiscuity, then what would sexual orientation have to do with it? As long as the very public proof was undeniable, then what would be the problem? Certainly not their sexual orientation.
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:39 AM
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If you were trying to get rid of him/her for blatant and public promiscuity, then what would sexual orientation have to do with it? As long as the very public proof was undeniable, then what would be the problem? Certainly not their sexual orientation.
My thought was that as long as both heterosexual and homosexual members were held to the same standards, then it shouldn't be a problem. If heterosexual members were blatantly promiscuous and didn't get disciplined, then a homosexual member who did might have cause to claim bias/a double standard. But if issues of promiscuity were dealt with consistently in the chapter, then I wouldn't anticipate any sort of problem.

(And let's hope that one individual chapter didn't have too many issues of blatant promiscuity to deal with in any given school year, otherwise that could certainly be the sign of a larger issue...)
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Old 05-09-2007, 02:07 AM
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Like use the term GDI?

That set aside, I have huge issues with this statement. I was active at a small, very conservative campus, where I served as the president of College Dems and engaged in some pro-choice activism. I am sure that gave many people on campus a bad impression of my sorority. Are you implying I shouldn't have done it?

GDI is not an offensive term.

As for the second part, no. You should be allowed to do whatever you felt was right. However, I would most certainly have refrained from wearing letters at any such event, dicussing things like that in letters when I KNEW it was going to turn into a heated argument, and not mentioning the sorority while engaging in such activities.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:06 AM
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GDI is not an offensive term.
Yes, it most certainly is!
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:13 AM
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:18 AM
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Who cares?
Apparently that would be fantASTic, Geeky Penguin, and myself. Perhaps some others as well.

We don't need your stamp of approval on what's discussed.
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