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05-06-2007, 05:24 PM
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However, If history books are going to be sold, I would rather a member of the org (to which the book belongs) profit, rather than someone else. I know people who are not greek sell para too, but I singled out the books since that is something directly form the orgs I/HQ.
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Hmmm.... I thought about this a little bit.....not a lot, but a little, lol....
What if each org sold their history book to the public via their websites? That would destroy the ebay market and continue to provide accurate information to the public, as ladygreek mentioned. AND the org would profit.
Hmmmm....might even lead to more knowledgable aspirants. Not that that was the focus of this thread.
I mean, it IS kinda funny to me that my (then) 20 dollar history book was available on ebay and other websites for 85 bucks -- and even now, as our history books are about 30 bucks for members, I see THE SAME EDITIONS on ebay for 180!
Crazy....
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05-06-2007, 05:58 PM
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Hmmmm....might even lead to more knowledgable aspirants. Not that that was the focus of this thread....
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LOL, you can always tell when Intake in about to happen in DST. The sales of ISOS spike.
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05-07-2007, 12:35 AM
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I have been collecting sorority songbooks for some time. I use them in our alumnae panhellenic, and after I go to the chapter eternal they will be donated to my GLOs headquarters. Many GLOs have impressive collections of the histories and songbooks of other GLOs. I collect them out of my interest in the history of the NPC, and can assure you that they are treated with respect.
Also, many NPC groups do sell history books at their HQ. I bought a Phi Mu one after my trip to their HQ, and I have the Chi Omega History dvd (Chi-O is quite high tech!). A D Pi has a lovely one, as does Pi Phi - I just haven't had the extra money to buy them as of yet. So the GLOs profit, and I learn a great deal more about my NPC cousins.
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05-07-2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Senusret I
Hmmm.... I thought about this a little bit.....not a lot, but a little, lol....
What if each org sold their history book to the public via their websites? That would destroy the ebay market and continue to provide accurate information to the public, as ladygreek mentioned. AND the org would profit.
Hmmmm....might even lead to more knowledgable aspirants. Not that that was the focus of this thread.
I mean, it IS kinda funny to me that my (then) 20 dollar history book was available on ebay and other websites for 85 bucks -- and even now, as our history books are about 30 bucks for members, I see THE SAME EDITIONS on ebay for 180!
Crazy....
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That is what I was thinking...about the orgs making money off of the books.
Plus aspirants can purchase books from whichever org or all of them, before thay decide to express interest and/or try to flip flop between all orgs.
Also, I wonder if aspirants are spending $150 for $20 books.
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05-07-2007, 04:09 PM
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Also, I wonder if aspirants are spending $150 for $20 books.
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I'm sure of it.
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05-07-2007, 04:12 PM
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I think of it this way:
If I wrote a book about the Red Sox, should the owners get a portion of it? Or, if you want to compare it to a not-for-profit group, a book about the history of the American Red Cross.
Writing a book often take lots of time, money (most authors, especially new ones, do not get advances on their contracts), and legwork. It takes months, even years to do all of the research, interviewing, drafting and editing before a book goes to print. There are legal fees, copyright and trademark fees, supplies (gasoline, tape recorders, computer software, etc.).
Sometimes, individuals or organizations contribute and a deal is made for compensation (one time or royalties), but as a rule, there is no ethical requirement for profits a non-fiction book to go to the person or organization of subject matter.
Basically, history is something that is not proprietary information. Think of textbooks... you cannot trademark the fact that an organization began in whatever year, who was involved, etc. The only loophole is if an author breaks a confidentiality agreement or violated privacy laws to obtain information.
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05-07-2007, 06:04 PM
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There are certain properties that must be followed. That is why some see Bokksw on ebay, Amazon or where ever.
People Die and the books are Found and placed on a sell site.
If you or others do not want to bid on and win them, then why complain?
Yes, it is the same as Badges or if they are Secret Parts of Ritual, they were stolen and not returned to The HQ as they were supposed to do.
So?
Wonderful question!
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05-07-2007, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by REE1993
I think of it this way:
If I wrote a book about the Red Sox, should the owners get a portion of it? Or, if you want to compare it to a not-for-profit group, a book about the history of the American Red Cross.
Writing a book often take lots of time, money (most authors, especially new ones, do not get advances on their contracts), and legwork. It takes months, even years to do all of the research, interviewing, drafting and editing before a book goes to print. There are legal fees, copyright and trademark fees, supplies (gasoline, tape recorders, computer software, etc.).
Sometimes, individuals or organizations contribute and a deal is made for compensation (one time or royalties), but as a rule, there is no ethical requirement for profits a non-fiction book to go to the person or organization of subject matter.
Basically, history is something that is not proprietary information. Think of textbooks... you cannot trademark the fact that an organization began in whatever year, who was involved, etc. The only loophole is if an author breaks a confidentiality agreement or violated privacy laws to obtain information.
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I understand what you are saying, but I wouldn't apply that since the authors of AKA history has always been a Soror (namely 15th Former Supreme Basileus Marjorie H. Parker). But, maybe its just me.
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