Greek Splinters Groups?

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Blessed2bDST

Not sure if this is an apples to apples example but my father is a member of Kappa Alpha Psi. Many years ago, some members were unhappy with the direction of the main alumnae chapter and started their own club for men who had been members of the fraternity for 25 years or longer.

They pay dues to their club, have guest speakers and social events sponsored by their club and do not interact much with the other chapters in the area. They are very proud members of the organization, they just choose not to affiliate with any of the local chapters.

Um, why didn't that just charter a new chapter? This makes no sense.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Um, why didn't that just charter a new chapter? This makes no sense.

Maybe they tried.

In my area, there was a group of men trying to establish the FOURTH alumni chapter of their org in my city. They were denied.... I actually don't know what their plans are, but it has left the chapter they defected from with very low numbers (all things considered).

[ladygreek]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Maybe they tried.

In my area, there was a group of men trying to establish the FOURTH alumni chapter of their org in my city. They were denied.... I actually don't know what their plans are, but it has left the chapter they defected from with very low numbers (all things considered).

Did those men go off and form a "group" to which they pay dues?

If those Kappas tried and were denied, it still makes no sense to pay dues to a "group" but not to the org. Change happens within. I mean they can't use the name of Kappa in what they do, so what good is that?

They could have stayed in the org., still formed their clique, but worked to make changes within.

I know that in Delta you have to have a certain number of currently financial sorors to charter an additional chapter, and it increases with each additional chapter in that area. You also must show proof of being able to sustain the chapters. Maybe that is why that org. was denied a new chapter.

I am not opposed to chartering new chapters in a given area. I consider it as an expansion not a splintering. Maybe they should have approached it that way.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Did those men go off and form a "group" to which they pay dues?

I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but I don't think so.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Did those men go off and form a "group" to which they pay dues?

If those Kappas tried and were denied, it still makes no sense to pay dues to a "group" but not to the org. Change happens within. I mean they can't use the name of Kappa in what they do, so what good is that?

They could have stayed in the org., still formed their clique, but worked to make changes within.

I know that in Delta you have to have a certain number of currently financial sorors to charter an additional chapter, and it increases with each additional chapter in that area. You also must show proof of being able to sustain the chapters. Maybe that is why that org. was denied a new chapter.

I am not opposed to chartering new chapters in a given area. I consider it as an expansion not a splintering. Maybe they should have approached it that way.

Yeah and it isn't uncommon to find 3 or so alumnae chapters within 20-30 minutes of each other.

I don't know Kappa's rules for chartering chapters. But splintering and paying dues for a club is silly. If you can't get a new chapter chartered, be active and try to impact the existing chapter. If you must be a member of a chapter. Then run along with your pals and do separate outtings, play cards and drink together after meetings, and do smaller service events that don't have a chapter attached to it. That's what quite a few folks do. Don't need separate dues to have cliques.

[Blessed2bDST]

Originally Posted by ladygreek

Um, why didn't that just charter a new chapter? This makes no sense.

I guess it's hard to explain in full in this forum. I think you'd have to live here to see how it operates. It's really not considered "lame" at all and a lot of the more "prominent" members of the organization who live here are part of it. I should have explained as well that they are all financial with grand chapter as members-at-large and they pay dues to this group to support their own activites.

[Kevin]

The Vanderbilt "Nu" Society isn't going to be too thrilled that Sigma Nu is recolonizing..

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The Vanderbilt "Nu" Society isn't going to be too thrilled that Sigma Nu is recolonizing..

How come were they not included? Past History?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

How come were they not included? Past History?

Your guess is as good as mine, but it's probably a pretty good guess

[KyleMcGuire1983]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The Vanderbilt "Nu" Society isn't going to be too thrilled that Sigma Nu is recolonizing..

Yeah Kevin I actually e-mailed their Commander (The Nu Society uses our titles, creed, similiar crest, and probably ritual) to talk about their situation. At first I figured they would fold themselves up and rush Sigma Nu or something....instead he wrote back saying that Sigma Nu National betrayed them or something to that effect. He wasn't happy about Sigma Nu re-founding but Sigma Nu had been there since 1888 so The Nu Society is pretty S.O.L. since I'm sure there is strong alumni support for Sigma Nu's re-emergence

The Nu Society even goes as far as calling Sigma Nu founders their brothers and founders.

It's like Bizarro world.....

Sigma Nu Chi at SUNY-Geneso use "Love, Truth, Honor" as part of their values but they added like six others and use baby blue and white instead of black, white, and gold.

[Xidelt]

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

[g41965]

This is as good a list of Delta Upsilon splinter groups as I have.

Vermont Delta Psi. DU chapter 1850-1854 closed 2004 hazing
Harvard DU Club DU Chapter 1881-1942 The Oak Club DU Chapter 1999-2005 The Oak club is very active check out their website.
Bowdoin Delta Sigma DU Chapter 1892-1952 closed 1998 when college banned greeks.
Dartmouth Foley House DU chapter 1926-1966 still exists as a coop!
Amherst Delta Upsilon Delta DU chapter 1847-1969 closed 1984 when college removed greek system from campus.
Brown Kappa Delta Upsilon DU chapter 1868-1967, 1986-1991 closed 1996 when college removed chapter for arson and vandalism.
Wesleyan Omega Phi DU chapter 1919-1952 became Kappa Alpha Society 1967 closed early 1980s.
Union DU was underground for several years after charter recalled for hazing in 1995 status not known.
Syracuse DU was underground for several years after charter was recalled for hazing mid 1990's probably inactive as DU is recolonizing in fall 2007.
Shippensburgh State .DU chapter 1995 -2003. recolonized after going local in 2007.
Ripon Lambda Delta Alpha .DU chapter 1959-1984. inactive 2005. DU may revive in next few years.
Simpson Kappa Theta Psi, DU chapter 1964-1976, still active.
Cal Poly Alpha Upsilon ,DU chapter 1970-1973, returned in 1992.
Pacific Omega Phi Alpha ,DU chapter 1959-1973, returned in 2006.

[DUKyleXY]

What are the greek letter designations standing for? I recognize Vermont's as their founding societies letters, but Brown was Gamma Upsilon.

[DUKyleXY]

At Iowa State, we had a splinter in the beginnings of the 1900s. My fraternity, Delta Upsilon was founded by the Colonnades Club. Before the foundation, three groups split, at different times. In 1905 the Colonnades was founded, in 1908, the first faction split to become the Colonials because they did not want to be affiliated with a National GLO. In 1910, another group broke from the Colonnades to become the Palisades. From the Palisades, five men broke of to form El Paso Club in 1911. All four groups became affiliated with National GLOs.
--The Colonnades Club became the Iowa State Chapter of Delta Upsilon in 1913.
--The Colonials became Beta Deuteron Chapter of Theta Delta Chi in 1919; even though they had split from Colonnades because they didn't want to affiliate.
--The Palisades became the Phi Chapter of Alpha Sigma Phi in 1920.
--El Paso became the Beta Alpha Chapter of Delta Sigma Phi.

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Xidelt

At St. Lawrence University (northern new york state), there is an independent sorority called Kappa Delta Sigma. According to the history page on their web site, they used to be a chapter of Kappa Delta, but turned in their charter in 1969 and became local in response to the white-only membership clause that many GLOs had at the time. It seems that they wanted to rush and pledge a minority member and their HQ at the time would not allow it.

http://it.stlawu.edu/~kds/