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Old 05-03-2001, 04:14 PM
JayBEE! JayBEE! is offline
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Nobody will agree with my organization/ Mockery Dang!

Let me say this, It only the people that are not use to our organizations that has a problem with us stepping. We have been stepping for several years. To agree with it or not isn't even a point. Just because your organizations are on several campuses it really doesn't mean that the National Pan own the act. I still haven't heard history on the subject, history that says NPHC Organizations began stepping and every one else followed.

I went to the site earlier suggested. It was quite interesting. It told how the Greek letters originated from Nubian phonetics, and Egyptian hieroglyphs. But it talks as if blacks (own/basically created) The Greek lettering system. This is the exactly the same kind of rhetoric going own here. We are using Greek Letters from a Greek society that used some of the culture of Egyptians to help there advance their own society. However, we are not using any Egyptian hieroglyphs are we? No, the culture of Greek is definitely a white society, no matter how black we say it is. Our organizations are based on a British enhanced American Fraternal Heritage. We are using the American Fraternal System to help advance our own society. You have to agree with that. That's simple fact. But now go to the blacks in white founded organizations. I know that they are doing the exact same thing. The same thing the Greeks did with an Egyptians society. We are going in a white founded culture and using the values we found in it to help advance our own society. It is not people who developed these values that we follow; it is the inspirations of the values itself. What is racist, is to think that white people can be inspire a white founded organization to develop values and to think those values will not work in a black society. And so is the reverse.


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We are then faced with a situation where ten years down the road the receiving (majority) culture is claiming the act as their own with no thought to its African/African-American origins. If non-NPHC groups steps, they need to learn the history and properly respect and acknowledge stepping's origins
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Thanks for showing me that web site. It supports my views more than I imagined. It stated "If you check the history of any Black Greek Lettered Organization you will find that their purpose was based on some particular need on the campus or in the local Black community." When I joined a White Founded organization, I saw the organization as being useful. Their purpose was based on some particular need on any campus or in any local community, including black communities and campuses. Also on that web site
They mentioned that Stepping evolved with groups of guys singing acappella, and when groups like the Temptations and the Four Tops were popular in the 50's and 60's brothers started mimicking their steps. Considering that we existed around the same time, on a campus would be possibly be involve in mimicking steps as well in 1947 Johnson C. Smith, I don't a case can be made as to stepping being own by National Pan-Hellenic Council. And since that history mentioned only Black Fraternities, it means every black sorority is guilty of what you are accusing other groups of black people of doing.

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Seems to me like JayBEE! just wanted an excuse to get back into that issue.
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I think you should ask JayBEE! That question. This is an issue with stepping. Because I'm over the animosity that some individuals (Not whole organization) have with Non-Historically Black Greek Lettered Organizations. As are other individuals of NPHC who have step in an Alpha Phi Omega step show recently, and NPHC organization who have invited Gamma Sigma Sigma to step in a their show recently. All happened this semester just as they did 10 or more years ago.

Let us go back to visit the original question. If you conducted a step show, would you invite another organization to step as exhibition if they were not a National Pan-Hellenic Council organization? I didn't say compete, I didn't say that they were inviting National Pan-Hellenic Council organizations to step in their step show. Some people did answer that question. I'm basically trying to find out if your reason for not inviting is either justified, nose in the air snobbishness, we-can-only-do-it selfishness or even racist. Because I went to a Historically Black University, in the Deep Deep South, and the entire campus stepped, not just the organizations of the NPHC organizations. What is strange is that it seems that organizations on non-Historically black campuses have more of a problem with it than those that are from Historically black campuses.

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As long as they are identified as non-affiliated
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What does this mean? I can't see us identifying ourselves as anything but who we are. The one thing I will not do is say that I am a non-you/non-xxxx. We don't have to say that. If people ask, of course we tell them that we are not governed or apart of the National Pan-Hellenic Council.

The thing to remember is that we are of the same. People that step, white, Latino, Asian. or whatever knows where that black is where it originated. I'm not mad at Elvis for liking what we love and taking a style and enhancing himself with the sounds he loved to do. I'm not mad at white men for dating beautiful black women, for falling in love with what is so easy to fall in love with. I'm not mad at the BackStreet Boys for Bringing limelight to an activity that will lead others to find it in the heritage of black society. I'm not mad at the Greeks for using some of the culture of Egyptians to help their advance their own society.

We came a long way from times of hatred. And amiss that hatred was white people walking right beside us in protest. Let me say it like this…. before Martin Luther King graduated from college in 1958; before nine Little Rock, Ark., schoolchildren were escorted to Central High School by federal troops, ending efforts to thwart court-ordered integration in 1957; and Before Rosa Parks refused to give her bus seat to a white man in Montgomery, Alabama in 1955, Alpha Phi Omega allowed a black campus to have a chapter of a white founded organization in 1947. Why? Because our society could use an organization just like this one.

Peace!


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