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04-28-2007, 10:41 AM
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OMG I love when NPC buses drive the wrong way down NPHC boulevard. Mostly because they can't turn around afterwards.
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04-28-2007, 11:42 AM
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I understand that. Even within NPC every organization has different requirements and every chapter has something else that is important to them and everyone has different personalities which dictate what type of girl they ask to join. I still stand by what I say, if any organization isn't going to accept someone with a mental illness that has been diagnosed by a doctor and would accept you if it hadn't been for that (ie. you have the grades and personality and you fit in really well with the group) than they are tool bags.
The reason I said upfront that I was NPC was to say that I don't know about NPHC but I still feel what I said should be universal to all organizations that call themselves a sisterhood.
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Look, you don't know about NPHC organizations so how can you have an opinion? If you can't speak before a group of people, then an NPHC organization isn't for you. As ladygreek said, there are conventions of TENS of THOUSANDS of people. If you can't deal, that's fine, but that means that the culture of the organizations are not for you.
This is not just probate shows..... this is the regular social and service nature of our organizations. We have the right to discriminate based on whether or not a girl or guy will be productive in our culture.
And I know deaf and blind and paraplegic (sp?) frat brothers who contribute to my fraternity -- but if they had a social disorder, they would need to handle that BEFORE they step to me.
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OMG I love when NPC buses drive the wrong way down NPHC boulevard. Mostly because they can't turn around afterwards.
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And you know, I'll be the first to chime in on an NPC discussion if something doesn't sound right or if I want to genuinely know more information. But rarely, if ever, would I call somebody a damn "tool bag" if I disagreed with something. That's incredibly arrogant and immature.
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04-28-2007, 12:04 PM
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Well, I'm in an npc sorority, but I have a few things to say on this subject.
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You have a lot to say on most subjects.
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And you know, I'll be the first to chime in on an NPC discussion if something doesn't sound right or if I want to genuinely know more information. But rarely, if ever, would I call somebody a damn "tool bag" if I disagreed with something. That's incredibly arrogant and immature.
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Senusret, as jessicaelaine explained here, a tool bag is a combination of a tool and douche bag, apparently it's worse than being just a tool.
jessicaelaine, kindly start thinking before you post. You can't seem to post in a thread without it turning into a massive trainwreck.
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04-28-2007, 01:37 PM
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jessicaelaine, kindly start thinking before you post. You can't seem to post in a thread without it turning into a massive trainwreck.
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I think the thing that I enjoy most is that jessicaelaine is her chapter's PR person. Way to be, champ.
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04-28-2007, 02:41 PM
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thanks most of y'all were helpful. i know making progress with my anxiety definitely doesn't guarantee a bid, i didn't mean to imply that by any means. i feel like if i did get a bid and was apart of something so much bigger than myself would help take my focus off of my anxiety more than anything can (its much lesser when i feel that other people are absolutely depending on me for something) and encourage some sort of...healing process? (cliche cliche, i know). even if i don't ever get a bid, just going out and seeing what its all about would help me immensely because something like that is so out of my comfort zone, but i don't want it to be.
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04-28-2007, 05:44 PM
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thanks most of y'all were helpful. i know making progress with my anxiety definitely doesn't guarantee a bid, i didn't mean to imply that by any means. i feel like if i did get a bid and was apart of something so much bigger than myself would help take my focus off of my anxiety more than anything can (its much lesser when i feel that other people are absolutely depending on me for something) and encourage some sort of...healing process? (cliche cliche, i know). even if i don't ever get a bid, just going out and seeing what its all about would help me immensely because something like that is so out of my comfort zone, but i don't want it to be.
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NPHCs don't give bids. So tell me again why you want to Rush a Black sorority?
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04-28-2007, 10:26 PM
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thanks most of y'all were helpful. i know making progress with my anxiety definitely doesn't guarantee a bid, i didn't mean to imply that by any means. i feel like if i did get a bid and was apart of something so much bigger than myself would help take my focus off of my anxiety more than anything can (its much lesser when i feel that other people are absolutely depending on me for something) and encourage some sort of...healing process? (cliche cliche, i know). even if i don't ever get a bid, just going out and seeing what its all about would help me immensely because something like that is so out of my comfort zone, but i don't want it to be.
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This is just my opinion (and please don't grill me for this  ) But if you do have severe anxiety disorder, you may want to help yourself by going for other organizations or societies to train your social skills. At least those groups will be less vigorous and you hence a less chance to have an anxiety attack. Give it like a semester and if you're comfortable, you can try next year (though I understand as you wait longer, the chances of being cut are higher).
However, lets say in the worst case scenerio, if you did get cut, you may end up having a worse anxiety because (I don't really know your condition) of the rejection. Please take care yourself, and you should really focus first on your health, your studies and then you social life. Good luck and I wish you the best
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04-28-2007, 11:03 PM
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This is just my opinion (and please don't grill me for this  ) But if you do have severe anxiety disorder, you may want to help yourself by going for other organizations or societies to train your social skills. At least those groups will be less vigorous and you hence a less chance to have an anxiety attack. Give it like a semester and if you're comfortable, you can try next year (though I understand as you wait longer, the chances of being cut are higher).
However, lets say in the worst case scenerio, if you did get cut, you may end up having a worse anxiety because (I don't really know your condition) of the rejection. Please take care yourself, and you should really focus first on your health, your studies and then you social life. Good luck and I wish you the best 
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I am not going to grill you  .
The suggestions of seeing how the OP deals with other orgs is a great suggestion! As for me, there are times when I want to just do things in the background, but I have to be in the forefront.
I joined as a senior as well as a few more of my other LSs, so don't discount trying as an upperclassman, plus NHPC has graduate membership.
quietriot, I hope you get better! Good Luck!
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04-28-2007, 09:45 PM
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Senusret, as jessicaelaine explained here, a tool bag is a combination of a tool and douche bag, apparently it's worse than being just a tool.
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Toolbag....that definition may need to be placed in the dictionary.
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04-28-2007, 12:05 PM
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And you know, I'll be the first to chime in on an NPC discussion if something doesn't sound right or if I want to genuinely know more information. But rarely, if ever, would I call somebody a damn "tool bag" if I disagreed with something. That's incredibly arrogant and immature.
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Wordy mcword word. Calling anyone names just because you don't agree with vague general policy is just ridiculous.
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04-28-2007, 12:38 PM
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I know someone who has epilepsy, and is a D9 member... she succeeded(sp) where MANY thought she would fail... so good luck to you on your journey!
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04-28-2007, 01:34 PM
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Instead of worrying about what set we're from, or what crew we roll with, how about we all just be brothers?
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04-28-2007, 03:21 PM
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Instead of worrying about what set we're from, or what crew we roll with, how about we all just be brothers?
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04-28-2007, 09:38 PM
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You have a lot to say on most subjects.
You can't seem to post in a thread without it turning into a massive trainwreck.
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the funny thing is though, most people don't pay attention to what i actually say. they just like to focus on how i say it. this post turned "into a massive train wreck" because people focused on the fact i wasn't an nphc and used the phrase tool bag. if you had something productive and intelligent to say about the actual content of my reply those things would have been obsolete.
i never said a group didn't have the right to turn away a prospective because something that cripples her from fitting into their culture, all i said was if that happened the group wasn't right for her and i did not agree with it.
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04-29-2007, 01:26 AM
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the funny thing is though, most people don't pay attention to what i actually say. they just like to focus on how i say it. this post turned "into a massive train wreck" because people focused on the fact i wasn't an nphc and used the phrase tool bag. if you had something productive and intelligent to say about the actual content of my reply those things would have been obsolete.
i never said a group didn't have the right to turn away a prospective because something that cripples her from fitting into their culture, all i said was if that happened the group wasn't right for her and i did not agree with it.
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I think the problem people have is... 1) you're not an NPHC member, therefore you have no right to really give advice on someone who is interested in the NPHC. Perhaps you could have said "I'm not an NPHCer but if that doesn't work out for you, try NPC... blah blah blah"
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I understand that. Even within NPC every organization has different requirements and every chapter has something else that is important to them and everyone has different personalities which dictate what type of girl they ask to join. I still stand by what I say, if any organization isn't going to accept someone with a mental illness that has been diagnosed by a doctor and would accept you if it hadn't been for that (ie. you have the grades and personality and you fit in really well with the group) than they are tool bags.
The reason I said upfront that I was NPC was to say that I don't know about NPHC but I still feel what I said should be universal to all organizations that call themselves a sisterhood.
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Even though you editted your post, you were quoted. You really have no right to put down the recruitment methods of another organization. EVERY org, even NPCs, recruit differently and look for different things. If you understood this, then you shouldn't have resorted to name calling.
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