Is this legal? Deactivated one NPC, now part of a new NPC.

[AGDee]

I don't know for sure, because we don't even keep those statistics. We just have stats on class level in the reports that I get from chapters. I'm not even sure that the members know that when someone goes through recruitment whether they are a transfer or not. I would imagine it would come up eventually during their new member period. I can say that it's common for chapters to recruit sophomores and juniors up north here though. I also know that at 3 campuses in Michigan, I've been working very hard to get advisors to get GPAs from the advisors of other chapters on campus so that we can get scholarship ranks for our chapters. This finally happened at Wayne State this year, after at least 6 years of trying. Trying to get info about greek membership at other universities up here would be a real challenge.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AGDee

I don't know for sure, because we don't even keep those statistics. We just have stats on class level in the reports that I get from chapters. I'm not even sure that the members know that when someone goes through recruitment whether they are a transfer or not. I would imagine it would come up eventually during their new member period. I can say that it's common for chapters to recruit sophomores and juniors up north here though. I also know that at 3 campuses in Michigan, I've been working very hard to get advisors to get GPAs from the advisors of other chapters on campus so that we can get scholarship ranks for our chapters. This finally happened at Wayne State this year, after at least 6 years of trying. Trying to get info about greek membership at other universities up here would be a real challenge.

It's interesting because some campuses publish the grade rankings on websites. (Yes, most that I've looked at are southern, but not all). Is it a difference in the university's attitude about student privacy, or is the greek culture itself that different, do you think? Can you speculate based on the campuses you know that do compile rankings and those that don't?

Again, I have no idea how big a problem joining an additional group is, but I think it'd be helpful if chapters knew how they could check. (Even when as you said, they hear from a friend at another campus, how would they verify the rumor?) Being able to say, "this is how we check" would seem like a deterrent to me.

[susan314]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

It's interesting because some campuses publish the grade rankings on websites. (Yes, most that I've looked at are southern, but not all). Is it a difference in the university's attitude about student privacy, or is the greek culture itself that different, do you think? Can you speculate based on the campuses you know that do compile rankings and those that don't?

I know that at Michigan State, the chapters get a printout from the university showing the GPA of each individual chapter member. (At least, they did when I was there back in the 90s, and I'd assume they do the same now.)

Bowling Green State University also gives such a printout to the chapter (they even sent me one as the advisor), and they also compile a list of chapter averages so that you know where you rank.

Those are the only 2 schools here "up north" that I have firsthand knowledge of, so I can't comment on any others. Guess I just assumed that all universities provided the info.

[gphiangel624]

Originally Posted by susan314

I know that at Michigan State, the chapters get a printout from the university showing the GPA of each individual chapter member. (At least, they did when I was there back in the 90s, and I'd assume they do the same now.)

Those are the only 2 schools here "up north" that I have firsthand knowledge of, so I can't comment on any others. Guess I just assumed that all universities provided the info.

Many universities provide academic reports for their Greek orgs. Oftentimes they will provide a detailed report to a chapter officer (President or Academics chair) and sometimes to an advisor, and national if requested (some schools just send it). The chapter averages are typically public information because it is virtually impossible to determine individual member GPAs from an average.

Regarding the dual membership issue- it isn't an immediate solution, but this is the reason why it is crucial for all chapters and Panhellenics to require the signing of a Membership Recruitment Binding Acceptance Agreement (i.e. "Pref card") or a COB form and to have them on file with the Greek Life office. Even more important is the explanation of the purpose of the form to PNMs before and when they sign it. If you don't know what you're getting yourself into, it's difficult to be held responsible for a rule you weren't aware of.

[AGDee]

We can usually get grades for the members in our chapters (although this is relatively new on a couple campuses too). But, we also have campuses (thinking Canadian chapters) where the orgs aren't recognized because they're all female groups so the Universities don't have anything to do with them, but kind of tolerate the idea that they exist. We cannot always get comparative GPAs for other NPCs to know what rank we are. It's a different culture and does vary greatly by school.