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04-24-2007, 11:21 PM
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I agree that I don't want my SSN being given out.
I really wish there was a better way to check these things. I really don't get why people do them...or why it doesn't bother some people when they find out.
There is a sister of mine that we aren't sure if she deactivated or not who went ahead and the same semester that my chapter was closed joined a NPHC chapter and would walk around campus in her new letters. That bothered me a lot...(one or two of you on here know who I'm talking about)/
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04-25-2007, 01:44 AM
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I am also against the SSN thing as many members of my chapter are not citizens of the U.S. and don't have them. Plus, I honestly wish my nationals had no requested it of me. I do get mail for a "my org." credit card and many other things I neither requested nor need. It's annoying enough and it's hard enough to keep your information private these days.
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04-25-2007, 03:44 PM
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Just to update...
I was calling Kappa Delta Headquarters today anyway, so I decided to ask if they kept Social Security Numbers of members. They do NOT. Some NPCs might, but since KD doesn't I'm guessing that some others might not either.
There goes the giant database idea.
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04-25-2007, 06:46 PM
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You can keep a database using other factors aside from Social Security numbers. I wouldn't want to give mine out, either, but being able to search for individuals in a large database may be beneficial in some ways. Not that I think it will ever happen--it most likely won't.
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04-25-2007, 06:49 PM
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You can keep a database using other factors aside from Social Security numbers. I wouldn't want to give mine out, either, but being able to search for individuals in a large database may be beneficial in some ways. Not that I think it will ever happen--it most likely won't. 
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I agree, and the database, if it existed, would be very handy, maybe too handy for marketing and advertising possibilities.
But I think groups could do more to watch our for this even without a database.
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04-25-2007, 07:13 PM
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Question...
Why wouldn't a database that simply had full names, birthdates, and affiliations not work? Even if a woman has a relatively common name, here's how it would work.
Jessica Marie Smith was a member of ABC at East Coast University. She transfers to West Coast University, goes through recruitment, and receives a bid to XYZ.
Especially since she's a transfer, someone from XYZ would check the national NPC database. Forty hits for Jessica Marie Smith come up, but only two initiated at ECU. One Jessica was born 7/8/1971 -- so it's obviously not her -- and another Jessica was born 2/27/1988. Voila, a name and birthday match. A quick phone call to the chapter at ECU or ABC headquarters confirms this girl's identity.
I don't know about everyone else, but I had to verify my identity (via driver's license or school ID which had my legal name and birthday on it) before I could sign up for recruitment because of age restrictions.
I really think this would work, and it would be as simple as a sorority updating their own member databases. It seems relatively easy enough. I'm sure mistakes would be made and if a girl changed her legal name from the time she was in one GLO before she rushed another it might make things sticky, but that seems unlikely. If a PNM is so psycho that she'd take great measures to hide her legal identity in order to cheat the system, my guess is she wouldn't last very long in a sorority anyway.
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04-25-2007, 07:21 PM
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I don't know about everyone else, but I had to verify my identity (via driver's license or school ID which had my legal name and birthday on it) before I could sign up for recruitment because of age restrictions.
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Off topic....but what time of age restrictions did you school have with recruitment?
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04-25-2007, 07:26 PM
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Question...
Why wouldn't a database that simply had full names, birthdates, and affiliations not work? Even if a woman has a relatively common name, here's how it would work.
Jessica Marie Smith was a member of ABC at East Coast University. She transfers to West Coast University, goes through recruitment, and receives a bid to XYZ.
Especially since she's a transfer, someone from XYZ would check the national NPC database. Forty hits for Jessica Marie Smith come up, but only two initiated at ECU. One Jessica was born 7/8/1971 -- so it's obviously not her -- and another Jessica was born 2/27/1988. Voila, a name and birthday match. A quick phone call to the chapter at ECU or ABC headquarters confirms this girl's identity.
I don't know about everyone else, but I had to verify my identity (via driver's license or school ID which had my legal name and birthday on it) before I could sign up for recruitment because of age restrictions.
I really think this would work, and it would be as simple as a sorority updating their own member databases. It seems relatively easy enough. I'm sure mistakes would be made and if a girl changed her legal name from the time she was in one GLO before she rushed another it might make things sticky, but that seems unlikely. If a PNM is so psycho that she'd take great measures to hide her legal identity in order to cheat the system, my guess is she wouldn't last very long in a sorority anyway.
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I think this would be a lot more efficient to search and not run the risks of giving out an SSN.
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04-25-2007, 08:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap
Question...
Why wouldn't a database that simply had full names, birthdates, and affiliations not work? Even if a woman has a relatively common name, here's how it would work.
Jessica Marie Smith was a member of ABC at East Coast University. She transfers to West Coast University, goes through recruitment, and receives a bid to XYZ.
Especially since she's a transfer, someone from XYZ would check the national NPC database. Forty hits for Jessica Marie Smith come up, but only two initiated at ECU. One Jessica was born 7/8/1971 -- so it's obviously not her -- and another Jessica was born 2/27/1988. Voila, a name and birthday match. A quick phone call to the chapter at ECU or ABC headquarters confirms this girl's identity.
I don't know about everyone else, but I had to verify my identity (via driver's license or school ID which had my legal name and birthday on it) before I could sign up for recruitment because of age restrictions.
I really think this would work, and it would be as simple as a sorority updating their own member databases. It seems relatively easy enough. I'm sure mistakes would be made and if a girl changed her legal name from the time she was in one GLO before she rushed another it might make things sticky, but that seems unlikely. If a PNM is so psycho that she'd take great measures to hide her legal identity in order to cheat the system, my guess is she wouldn't last very long in a sorority anyway.
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Sounds good to me.
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