Sweethearts wearing letters?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

As far as little sisters go, I was told that the REAL reason why it was discontinued is because there began a habit of the big brothers expecting sex from their little sisters - that it was a tradition, and pretty widespread. It sucks that it's not allowed anymore, though, because it would be pretty cool.

Wait - it would be cool to have a fraternity boy expect sex from you because you happen to be their little sister? Not so much (even though, as Sheila said, that's not the real reason anyway).

[fantASTic]

Heh, no, I wasn't clear there - the CONCEPT of little sisters is cool, not that they expect sex.

If that's not the real reason, okay then; that's what I was told by my big sis.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Heh, no, I wasn't clear there - the CONCEPT of little sisters is cool, not that they expect sex.

If that's not the real reason, okay then; that's what I was told by my big sis.

Considering your big sis (unless you mean your biological big sis) was never on campus when little sisters were in existence, I really don't think she is qualified to speak on the matter.

Sorry if I'm bitchy about this, but some of my best friends in college were little sisters and I get really irritated when these old, untrue urban myths get brought up by people who don't know what they're talking about.

[fantASTic]

No, it's fine; that's why I brought it up, to see if that reallyw as the real reason behind it. Thanks for clarifying the real reason.

[Ohsass]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Considering your big sis (unless you mean your biological big sis) was never on campus when little sisters were in existence, I really don't think she is qualified to speak on the matter.

Sorry if I'm bitchy about this, but some of my best friends in college were little sisters and I get really irritated when these old, untrue urban myths get brought up by people who don't know what they're talking about.

I am a bit torn here because I do believe that the guys I knew specifically, probably had sex on their minds as well. For instance, one little sis rush event I recall clearly involved two guys at a check in table taking names from girls who wanted to be little sisters. If you paid attention, after you started to leave the table, the guys would drop your name either in the good pile or the bad, solely based on your appearance. Now realistically, you can't fault the guys entirely for wanting their little sisters to be attractive as they were a reflection on XYZ.

I do believe some of the guys were thinking they might get sex from the girls but that would also assume that the girls themselves had no say in the matter which would be an erroneous assumption. We learned really quickly which girls were "easy" and which weren't but that wasn't grounds for kicking them out of little sisters. Though we would at some point end up talking to them about it and the cloud that persons' behavior placed on the group. In my case, I did end up dating and marrying a brother but I can state factually that we did do many charitable events with the brothers.

I can not find fault though with the NIC rules established in the late 80's. I felt that most of their reasoning was intended to protect the brotherhood itself.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Ohsass

I am a bit torn here because I do believe that the guys I knew specifically, probably had sex on their minds as well.

Which makes them...college guys.

There's a difference between "hey, she's cute, I wouldn't mind having her around, I might ask her out" and "hey, if she gets to be a little sister, I can bang her daily." I can't think of ANY of the little sister programs on my campus that were run in the latter manner.

[ZTA zetahunny]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Considering your big sis (unless you mean your biological big sis) was never on campus when little sisters were in existence, I really don't think she is qualified to speak on the matter.

Sorry if I'm bitchy about this, but some of my best friends in college were little sisters and I get really irritated when these old, untrue urban myths get brought up by people who don't know what they're talking about.

I was a little sis in 76 and 77 and I was in no way shape or form expected to do anything. I didn't even drink the semester I was initiated..I think little sisters were to show guys on campus that abc fraternity has pretty girls who are regularly at their parties. We helped at rush with making small talk with the PNMs and I even remember having to do with someone getting "black balled". Most of the little sisters didn't even date the brothers, which the brothers confided in me was wrong. I resigned after I started dating the Pres of another fraternity. I wish I hadn't resigned.. It seemed like the right thing to do at the time.

[kathykd2005]

"Dagger Men" are KD's male form of a sweet heart. They are allowed to wear letters, but there cannot be more than five on campus at a time; at least, this is what I have recently been told.