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04-20-2007, 07:44 PM
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Tom, I won't even ask about your hunting for food, much less for people.
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Originally Posted by AGDee
I see no reason to have automatic or semi-automatic weapons available to civillians. I can understand wanting a gun for protection in some circumstances and I understand wanting hunting rifles. It's such a complex issue.
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If I may, I'd like to address the difference between automatic and semi-automatic rifles. Automatics have been severely restricted since the 1930s (due to Al Capone's Tommy guns). They are almost impossible to obtain legally, and fire as long as the trigger is held back.
Semi-automatics fire once for each time the trigger is pulled and released. A double-action revolver works the same way.
A Glock 9mm pistol is called an "automatic", even though it's really semi-automatic in operation. Each pull of the trigger fires one cartidge.
The alternative to a semi-automatic rifle is a bolt action - only marginally slower than semi-automatic (as was evidenced in the JFK assasination).
I like a semi-auto rifle, the M-1 carbine to be exact, for home protection because the magazine can be kept separate from the gun and inserted very quickly when needed, otherwise the gun is safe. The round is enough to stop an intruder, but not so powerful as to penetrate walls and injure anyone beyond them. Finally, the bayonette should deter any bad guy from trying to grab it away from me. For home protection, it's the safest and most practical option.
The reason I'm mentioning this is because the media loves to show videos of a fully autoimatic rifles being fired - brrrrrrrr - as they're talking about an "assault weapons ban", meaning semi-automatics. A true assault weapon is indeed fully automatic, but like I said they were already banned way back in the 1930s.
A semi-automatic rifle or pistol can fire no faster than a revolver. The subject will no doubt be resurfacing, so be armed with at least the proper information.
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04-21-2007, 03:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonoBN41
Tom, I won't even ask about your hunting for food, much less for people.
If I may, I'd like to address the difference between automatic and semi-automatic rifles. Automatics have been severely restricted since the 1930s (due to Al Capone's Tommy guns). They are almost impossible to obtain legally, and fire as long as the trigger is held back.
Semi-automatics fire once for each time the trigger is pulled and released. A double-action revolver works the same way.
A Glock 9mm pistol is called an "automatic", even though it's really semi-automatic in operation. Each pull of the trigger fires one cartidge.
The alternative to a semi-automatic rifle is a bolt action - only marginally slower than semi-automatic (as was evidenced in the JFK assasination).
I like a semi-auto rifle, the M-1 carbine to be exact, for home protection because the magazine can be kept separate from the gun and inserted very quickly when needed, otherwise the gun is safe. The round is enough to stop an intruder, but not so powerful as to penetrate walls and injure anyone beyond them. Finally, the bayonette should deter any bad guy from trying to grab it away from me. For home protection, it's the safest and most practical option.
The reason I'm mentioning this is because the media loves to show videos of a fully autoimatic rifles being fired - brrrrrrrr - as they're talking about an "assault weapons ban", meaning semi-automatics. A true assault weapon is indeed fully automatic, but like I said they were already banned way back in the 1930s.
A semi-automatic rifle or pistol can fire no faster than a revolver. The subject will no doubt be resurfacing, so be armed with at least the proper information.
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In answer to your non question, growing up poor, my Dad and I would go hunting for rabbit and squirls for food to eat. Go fishing at what was called pay lakes, you paid a buck and only paid for the fish you caught. That is why to this day I eat neither one of them. We also went down home and bought eggs from a farmer by the egg crate till the next time we were able to get down home. Hate chickens, that is why I eat so much now!
As far as guns!
Automatic= A weapon that will fire automaticly with out pulling the trigger each time.
Semi Automatic= A weapon that the trigger that has to be pulled each time to fire it.
Both are propelled by the gas from the shot that returns the slide back ready for the next round.
Revolver=A cylinder weapon depending on a type of manufacturer which hold 5 or 6 rounds and the trigger has to be pulled each time.
Most fully automated or outlawed by Federal law. Just pull the trigger and they fire!
True, JFK was supposedly killed by a bolt action weapon. I have always called BS on that.
Vistit Delay Plaza and check it out!
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04-21-2007, 05:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JonoBN41
Tom, I won't even ask about your hunting for food, much less for people.
If I may, I'd like to address the difference between automatic and semi-automatic rifles. Automatics have been severely restricted since the 1930s (due to Al Capone's Tommy guns). They are almost impossible to obtain legally, and fire as long as the trigger is held back.
Semi-automatics fire once for each time the trigger is pulled and released. A double-action revolver works the same way.
A Glock 9mm pistol is called an "automatic", even though it's really semi-automatic in operation. Each pull of the trigger fires one cartidge.
The alternative to a semi-automatic rifle is a bolt action - only marginally slower than semi-automatic (as was evidenced in the JFK assasination).
I like a semi-auto rifle, the M-1 carbine to be exact, for home protection because the magazine can be kept separate from the gun and inserted very quickly when needed, otherwise the gun is safe. The round is enough to stop an intruder, but not so powerful as to penetrate walls and injure anyone beyond them. Finally, the bayonette should deter any bad guy from trying to grab it away from me. For home protection, it's the safest and most practical option.
The reason I'm mentioning this is because the media loves to show videos of a fully autoimatic rifles being fired - brrrrrrrr - as they're talking about an "assault weapons ban", meaning semi-automatics. A true assault weapon is indeed fully automatic, but like I said they were already banned way back in the 1930s.
A semi-automatic rifle or pistol can fire no faster than a revolver. The subject will no doubt be resurfacing, so be armed with at least the proper information.
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An M1 Carbine, or any rifle for that matter, is in no way the most practical option for home protection. That is absolutely ridiculous.
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04-21-2007, 05:23 PM
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An M1 Carbine, or any rifle for that matter, is in no way the most practical option for home protection. That is absolutely ridiculous.
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On the other hand, it's perfect for squirrel hunting.
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04-21-2007, 05:35 PM
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I'm a big fan of shotguns for home defense.
They take little skill. They are scary as hell. Think very loud bang. And even chambering a round has a chilling and famliar sound.
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04-21-2007, 06:05 PM
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I grew up on a very isolated ranch. Daddy taught me early on how to shoot. When my parents had to leave me and my 3 siblings alone, he made sure I knew where the shotgun was, and just told me to be sure the body was in the house (!!!)
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