Harry Potter Speculation

Marie · #1 04-15-2007, 10:59 PM

Has anyone discussed Harry being the last Horucrux? We already know that Voldemort left a little part of himself behind w/Harry, hense the scar. I don't know if this has already been discussed...I kinda skim through the thread.

Drolefille · #2 04-15-2007, 11:39 PM

ha ha, yeah read the past few pages. I think we mostly agreed that he wasn't (That was my original position, so I may be biased). It is certainly still a possibility. I just don't think it's likely.

CutiePie2000 · #3 04-16-2007, 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Marie

Has anyone discussed Harry being the last Horucrux? We already know that Voldemort left a little part of himself behind w/Harry, hense the scar. I don't know if this has already been discussed...I kinda skim through the thread.

ha ha...yes! I was thinking that too. Jump back to page 47....we went off on that "is the scar a horcrux" tangent for a lil' bit...

FWIW: after greekchatting with all these smart cookies who remember more than I do, I do NOT believe that the scar is a horcrux.

Marie · #4 04-21-2007, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

ha ha...yes! I was thinking that too. Jump back to page 47....we went off on that "is the scar a horcrux" tangent for a lil' bit...

FWIW: after greekchatting with all these smart cookies who remember more than I do, I do NOT believe that the scar is a horcrux.

Gotcha! Thx!

BetteDavisEyes · #5 04-22-2007, 03:53 PM

Have you seen this yet? It's the new trailer for OoTP!

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

In case that doesn't work...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14KlsramMHg

Gary Oldman...*sigh*...Gary Oldman...

christiangirl · #6 04-22-2007, 06:49 PM

OMG......I'm shaking....I'm THAT excited.....

carnation · #7 04-22-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CutiePie2000

ha ha...yes! I was thinking that too. Jump back to page 47....we went off on that "is the scar a horcrux" tangent for a lil' bit...

FWIW: after greekchatting with all these smart cookies who remember more than I do, I do NOT believe that the scar is a horcrux.

Maybe ole Harry was accidentally made the Slytherin horcrux when V tried to kill him and that's why it's such a huge big deal that Harry's eyes are the Slytherin color.

Drolefille · #8 04-22-2007, 08:56 PM

No no no, I think V cut out Lily's eyes and shoved them into Harry's head (magically of course).

christiangirl · #9 04-22-2007, 09:07 PM

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No no no, I think V cut out Lily's eyes and shoved them into Harry's head (magically of course).

If that's the case, he should've been renamed Larry....and his eyes should swivel around and be removable like Moody.

Drolefille · #10 04-23-2007, 01:58 PM

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If that's the case, he should've been renamed Larry....and his eyes should swivel around and be removable like Moody.

Tee hee

There has to be SOME reason why we can't go a hundred pages without an Order member commenting on how Harry has Lily's eyes. (I'm exaggerating but not by much)

So, a bookstore employee was explaining her theory to a customer... that JamesPotter is Snape. Somehow Snape was there when Harry was killed and Snape now "contains" James in some way or another. I thought it was a long stretch to explain why Dumbledore has always trusted him.

And I think Harry is, at this point, going to have to face things more or less on his own. Ron and Hermioned will certainly be prominent and help him. But the adults he has trusted have been removed from him. Neither Dumbledore nor Sirius can save him (though I don't think Sirius is quite gone forever... Harry does have that mirror). He and his friends will have to fight as the "next generation" of the Order as it were. In my mind, the big question is, will he have to face Voldemort alone? It's traditional in a hero-villian stand off. And it fits the character arc of Harry. However, if the key difference between V and Harry is that Harry's friends will fight for him because they care (even love) him, they may play the pivotal role in the "last battle" so to speak and they may be the difference between Harry living or dying.

On another random thought, I wonder what would have happened if, on that first meeting with Draco, Harry had accepted that handshake and chosen his friends more "wisely." Perhaps he would have ended up in Slytherin after all?

It's quite intriguing an idea.

AlexMack · #11 04-23-2007, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Tee hee

There has to be SOME reason why we can't go a hundred pages without an Order member commenting on how Harry has Lily's eyes. (I'm exaggerating but not by much)

So, a bookstore employee was explaining her theory to a customer... that JamesPotter is Snape. Somehow Snape was there when Harry was killed and Snape now "contains" James in some way or another. I thought it was a long stretch to explain why Dumbledore has always trusted him.

And I think Harry is, at this point, going to have to face things more or less on his own. Ron and Hermioned will certainly be prominent and help him. But the adults he has trusted have been removed from him. Neither Dumbledore nor Sirius can save him (though I don't think Sirius is quite gone forever... Harry does have that mirror). He and his friends will have to fight as the "next generation" of the Order as it were. In my mind, the big question is, will he have to face Voldemort alone? It's traditional in a hero-villian stand off. And it fits the character arc of Harry. However, if the key difference between V and Harry is that Harry's friends will fight for him because they care (even love) him, they may play the pivotal role in the "last battle" so to speak and they may be the difference between Harry living or dying.

On another random thought, I wonder what would have happened if, on that first meeting with Draco, Harry had accepted that handshake and chosen his friends more "wisely." Perhaps he would have ended up in Slytherin after all?

It's quite intriguing an idea.

Nah, Sirius is gone forever. The mirror didn't work.
Did anyone else have a minor freakout that Helena Bonham Carter is playing Bellatrix? SO. AWESOME.
This movie looks like it will stay pretty true to the book so I'm excited.

christiangirl · #12 04-23-2007, 04:17 PM

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So, a bookstore employee was explaining her theory to a customer... that JamesPotter is Snape. Somehow Snape was there when Harry was killed and Snape now "contains" James in some way or another. I thought it was a long stretch to explain why Dumbledore has always trusted him.
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....(though I don't think Sirius is quite gone forever... Harry does have that mirror)......

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However, if the key difference between V and Harry is that Harry's friends will fight for him because they care (even love) him, they may play the pivotal role in the "last battle" so to speak and they may be the difference between Harry living or dying.......

1. If James is Snape, why would he hate him so much? He's only done right by Harry once (saving him from Quirrel's jinx) and that was purely so that, by doing that good deed, he could go one hating James' memory with peace of mind.

2. I don't think Sirius is gone forever (though I think JKR may have said he is), but Harry doesn't have the mirror. If I'm not mistaken, didn't he smash it when it didn't work?

3. This is true, but I think he will face Voldy on his own. It's in the prophecy that one must kill the other (according to Dumbledore). Says nothing about friends. Though it'd be a good thought that the 3 would band together against Voldemort, it'd be a better cinematic move to have Harry do it alone.