The Devil's Advocate: Imus/Rap industry

[Little32]

I guess it is difficult for me to carry on a conversation with someone who is clearly not educated about the black community. Those "subdued" leaders that you reference are the ones that have the real mobilizing power within our communities. Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright is given more credence that Al Sharpton by most of the people that I know ("educated" or "uneducated," rich or poor)--but you probably don't have any idea who that is.

Go and talk to some black people (interesting proposition hunh). Ask them who their leaders are, who mobilizes them to action--better yet, listen too what the black people who post here are saying--and then reevaluate your notion of black community leadership, because it is wrong.

But I guess we probably can't tell you that because our experience doesn't mean anything in the face of your "supposed" empirical evidence.

[unspokenone25]

BRAVO, Soror Little32!

Originally Posted by Little32

I guess it is difficult for me to carry on a conversation with someone who is clearly not educated about the black community. Those "subdued" leaders that you reference are the ones that have the real mobilizing power within our communities. Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright is given more credence that Al Sharpton by most of the people that I know ("educated" or "uneducated," rich or poor)--but you probably don't have any idea who that is.

Go and talk to some black people (interesting proposition hunh). Ask them who their leaders are, who mobilizes them to action--better yet, listen too what the black people who post here are saying--and then reevaluate your notion of black community leadership, because it is wrong.

But I guess we probably can't tell you that because our experience doesn't mean anything in the face of your "supposed" empirical evidence.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

BRAVO, Soror Little32!

haha, never ceases to amaze.

[unspokenone25]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

haha, never ceases to amaze.

Same can be said about you.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

Same can be said about you.

That I never cease to amaze? Kind words, thank you.

[unspokenone25]

If you want to take it that way but you're smart (and ignorant) enough to know it wasn't a compliment.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

If you want to take it that way but you're smart (and ignorant) enough to know it wasn't a compliment.

I don't really know where ignorance ties in...but sure, I know it wasn't a compliment. If you want reassurance that your insult got through, yes, I'm well aware that was your mission. Hopefully that'll put your mind at ease.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by unspokenone25

BRAVO, Soror Little32!

Thank you Soror! *Takes a bow.*

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by Little32

I guess it is difficult for me to carry on a conversation with someone who is clearly not educated about the black community. Those "subdued" leaders that you reference are the ones that have the real mobilizing power within our communities. Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright is given more credence that Al Sharpton by most of the people that I know ("educated" or "uneducated," rich or poor)--but you probably don't have any idea who that is.

Go and talk to some black people (interesting proposition hunh). Ask them who their leaders are, who mobilizes them to action--better yet, listen too what the black people who post here are saying--and then reevaluate your notion of black community leadership, because it is wrong.

But I guess we probably can't tell you that because our experience doesn't mean anything in the face of your "supposed" empirical evidence.

Your defensiveness is likely indicative of your lack of objectivity in this matter. I never claimed to be as in touch with the black community as someone like you would be, as a member. However, as an outsider, I also have no personal interest in protecting the image of the community (I also don't have much interest in seeing it damaged, either).

This...
"Go and talk to some black people (interesting proposition hunh)."

...was evidence enough for me. A lack in civility certainly doesn't aid your message.

As for Jeremiah Wright and mobilizing power, where is the mobilization? Once again, we're talking about large scale action in the mainstream. He obviously has a following among the educated and the faithful, but I don't see what your point is. I don't see him creating a whirlwind over the playing of rap music over the airways. I don't see the protests, so show me. Where is the intensity, after all thats what we're talking about.

For the 2409758th time, nobody is saying theres not some rebellion/action/whatever inside the black community, what I'm saying is that there isn't the fervor or the large scale outrage you see with the Imus or the Duke situation.

[Little32]

Exactly. You can't see my point, mostly because you don't want to, and so I am done with you in regards to this matter.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by Little32

Exactly. You can't see my point, mostly because you don't want to, and so I am done with you in regards to this matter.

I see your point, I disagree with it. You apparently have a severe problem with someone opposing your viewpoints, and so it isn't surprising that you're "done with [me]." Thanks for the conversation.