GPA Question *tricky*

[UGAalum94]

I agree that Panhellenic shouldn't do that and it's another instance of how the official word can be misleading.

I just wanted to clarify that I didn't think chapters were deliberately misleading about the minimum, but that in actuality the average PNM who didn't have other strengths to offset the GPA might need a higher GPA than the minimum to avoid being released.

A great girl with a great rec, lots of activities, and who girls in the chapter knew could easily get a bid with with the minimum GPA. A great girl who didn't have a rec or know girls in the chapter, maybe would need a higher GPA?

I take the minimum to be as low as the chapter could go with someone they were willing to take a grade risk for. But that it's lower than average and what they'd really want.

[AchtungBaby80]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I take the minimum to be as low as the chapter could go with someone they were willing to take a grade risk for. But that it's lower than average and what they'd really want.

Exactly. You put it very well.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by AchtungBaby80

Exactly. You put it very well.

I agree as well. I would just add that *in general*, fraternities are perhaps more likely to take a grade risk than sororities.

[fantASTic]

For my sorority, the required GPA is actually lower than what the local NPC sets. THerefore, we go by the highest. I think that's pretty much standard; you take the two and go by the higher one.

And i'm sure that fraternities go lower than sororities; my boyfriend joined a fraternity with a 1.7. Granted, it was local so they weren't bound by the requirements many national GLO's are, but still.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

my boyfriend joined a fraternity with a 1.7.

Wow. At my school you were dismissed if your grades were that low.

[Miss{BooperDoo}]

First off, thanks for all the responses so fast! *logs on and sea’s 26 responses....* HOLY CRAP! Anyway... Apologies ahead of time for the beginning coming of angry. I think I mislead a few people and would like to correct that.

*excuse the misspelling/bad grammar ahead of time, its late, I just got off work*

I think that there is some confusion here, I did have to retype that original thread twice as it cleared out the first time (went' to cannot find page of doom) so I was a little testy typing it.

1) My classes that I received poor grades in will not transfer. They will be dropped. Classes you receive a D or F in do no transfer. So this will boost my GPA, not by much but it will help with the State issue.

2) Yes, I do own up to a lot of the poor things that have happened as my responsibility. But when you are fresh out of high school and don't know anything about LOANS or FAFSA and are just starting to figure it all, I had scholarships to cover everything as it was my first semester out of high school. So my financial aid advisor didn't feel the need to go over these things with me. When I transferred, I entered a completely different school that *assumed* I knew everything about financial aid. The "state" university I attended is an "extension" of a state university. As in there are maybe 3000 kids who attend. If that. I commuted to school. I was assured by the financial aid office that I didn't need to take out loans, why you might ask? Because my EFC on my FAFSA was so high. Guess who pays for college. ME. Not my parents, not my grandparents, not my uncles, my aunts, whatever. ME. Did she ask that? No. She doesn't care. She just knows it has to be paid. She doesn't care by whom, and doesn't care to explain it to someone, who she thinks knows the ins and outs of financial aid because I had college work completed at another school. She's repeated it 10,000 times before hand, and this just saves her one time of saying it again. It's burn out, but none the less it screwed me.

3)When you have someone who does a piss poor job explaining to you about costs and what YOU WILL BE PAYING to attend their institution, you end up getting stuck with a $4000 bill that must be paid. I had THREE MONTHS to pay this off. Have you ever tried to pay off $4000 in three months while paying for your car, your gas, your insurance, your phone, your food etc? I didn't "choose" a 40 hour week knowing I had class. I HAD TO have a 40 hour week. Money doesn't grow on trees.

4) Once I discovered this huge huge bill and its problems, there was NO ONE to talk to about it. My "advisor" was never available. Anytime I wanted to talk to someone about what I needed to do, the response was "You need to make an appointment with your academic advisor". Who, as I said, would make appointments with me, and never show. By the time they switched me advisors I was told I needed to drop the classes, but I was already past the point of any refund and would have to pay for the classes anyway. I didn't have help here.

5) I'm taking out monstrous loans to get out of this area and the trap I am in of staying home and going to school. I am back at the community college because it’s what works for me now in my financial situation. My brother (who has just graduated and is making more than my parents) wants to help me out and is willing to co-sign some loans with me, so I can go out of state for school. I fully intend on, once completing school, living in Alabama. The debt will be completely worth it.

KDdani, you must not have read my other posts, that’s ok I didn't expect you too, but I have to clarify. I'm only 20 right now. I will be 21 when I transfer. Won't be 22 until April of 08. I didn't retype all that information (have been typing it in every post I've made) because it didn't seem relevant.

I understand that none of you know me, or my situation, and given that I have had some great answers to this question. Most everyone on this site is helpful and willing to give great advice. But a couple of replies to this question were HUGE ASSUMPTIONS about someone YOU DON'T KNOW. Giving me advice on the GPA requirements is one thing, but to say that I don't seem too eager to pursue my degree is completely another. You know about 19 or 20 posts worth (as that’s all I've posted) about my life. If that, as I can't say you've went back and re read everything I ever posted.

I'll be updating on this as I go through admissions on what university I plan on attending. Nothing is set in stone for USA and there are a couple of other colleges that are looking just as equally appealing.

Thanks again for the advice, and sorry I didn't quote this time around, I plan on responding to this again, but alas I am sleepy.

[kddani]

We're just going on the information that YOU have given us. You've come here asking for advice on a multitude of questions. Based on the information you've given us and what you've said, impressions and opinions were formed.

To sidetrack for a second- there is a wealth of information out there about financial aid. It is up to everyone to educate themselves. Hell, most people do it themselves without any help from any sort of adviser. It just really came across (and still comes across) as shifting of blame. It would be easier to be understanding towards your situation if you just said "yeah, I screwed up" rather than blaming everything on the evil school and advisers.

I'll just be blunt- your chances of sorority membership are pretty low. Low GPA, older, several transfers, possible financial issues, and the fact that you're not getting to the school until spring (when formal rush is held in the fall) and won't really know anyone- none of these bode well. Everytime you've started a thread with a new question it's just adding to this list- it seems like there's always another issue.

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by Miss{BooperDoo}

KDdani, you must not have read my other posts, that’s ok I didn't expect you too, but I have to clarify. I'm only 20 right now. I will be 21 when I transfer. Won't be 22 until April of 08.

HUH????

Wait you're 20 right now and you're going to go from 20 to 22 in the span of 12 mos? Did you mean April of 09 you're going to be 22? Sorry, I'm just a bit confused.