Snap bids

aopirose · #1 04-06-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Maybe snap bidding has changed, but when I was in school (at Ohio University), snap bids came after everyone else recieved thier bids.

That is COB. Snap Bids are done as KSUViolet and ASUADPi said right after bid matching. Usually, it is before everyone disperses with the final list The only people who would really know if Sally Sue is a snap bid are the people in the room at the time and Sally Sue. She'll get her bid with everyone else and if she or other people say nothing, no one will ever know that she is a snap bid.

gpb1874 · #2 04-06-2007, 12:15 PM

what aopirose said is correct. directly after bid matching, while everyone is still in the room (at least at my campus), we look at any unmatched women and see if those that did not make quota want to snap bid them. If someone is snap bid, it's often not a chapter they listed, although it could happen (if bid matching stops before all chapters meet quota except a couple and some women are left bidless due to how the process works).

If it's a chapter the woman did not list, Panhel would call and say "you did not receive a bid from the chapters on your list, but ABC wants to offer you a bid." ABC advisor may be present during that call and talk to the woman if she has any questions. The woman comes to sign her bid card before bid day festivities begin (if all works out well) and no one but the advisors know she was given a snap bid. I've only seen this done if the woman is on the chapter's bid list OR was really liked and ended up dropping out of recruitment. I'd assume the chapter would have discussed this possibility at some point during MS.

Here, women usually only self-release if they are sick, something serious happens (family related), they have a previous committment they cannot miss or they're called into work. They do not drop out with the hopes of getting a snap bid (usually 2 out of 3 chapters make quota).

In the example mentioned earlier of a legacy dropping out b/c she only wants her legacy house and just wants a snap bid at the end, she would be taking a SERIOUS risk. If that chapter gets to quota, she is screwed. The chapter could not hold open a spot for her during the bid matching process, even if they really wanted to offer her a bid.

I hope that makes sense. Let me know if it doesn't. There's a lot more detail that can be added, but I didn't want it to be too much info.

mommamagnolia · #3 04-06-2007, 03:20 PM

So is snap bidding different than quota additions? For example, quota was 58, but ABC actually takes 63. So are the 5 extra girls quota additions or snaps bids?

(sorry the pun, but this is all greek to me

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violetpretty · #4 04-06-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mommamagnolia

So is snap bidding different than quota additions? For example, quota was 58, but ABC actually takes 63. So are the 5 extra girls quota additions or snaps bids?

(sorry the pun, but this is all greek to me

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Your example would be quota additions. Quota additions happen when ther are women who have maximized their options throughout recruitment (i.e. attends 3 preference parties and ranks all 3 chapters) and they end up bidless at the end of bid matching. Quota additions are to match as many women as possible. A PNM will never know if she was a quota addition or not.

Snap bids are for chapters who did not make quota at the end of bid matching. They will have a snap bidding list composed of women who released them or dropped out of recruitment that either the Panhellenic Association or the Rho Gammas will call to offer a bid. This takes place before bid day festivities and she will open an envelope like everyone else.

CR(continuous recruitment) happens after bid day and chapters that either did not make quota or who did make quota and are under total can hold informal recruitment events and offer bids.

seraphimsprite · #5 04-06-2007, 04:01 PM

Snap bidding procedure really does seem to vary from campus to campus. At the school where I went to undergrad, we were given a list from panhellenic of the girls who either dropped out of rush or did not get a bid after bid matching. We then went through the list, decided who we would be willing to offer a snap bid to and had a member call them to offer them a bid. We did the calls after bid matching (so if they didn't get a bid, they had already been notified by their Rho Chi and usually given a heads up that they might receive calls from sororities offering snap bids) but before the actual bid day activities. So if a girl accepted our snap bid, we told her to come to the bid day field and she would have a bid card waiting for her. The only people who knew that she was a snap bid were the members who were on the snap bidding team and panhellenic.

At the campus where I was an adviser, my chapter didn't ever have to snap bid so I'm not quite as familiar with the procedure but I know it was very different from what we did at my undergrad school. Instead of the chapter members being responsible for contacting the women who were eligible for snap bidding, the greek advisers called them and let them know that XYZ was offering them a bid. What I'm not sure about is how it worked when there were multiple chapters offering a snap bid to the same girl. I believe the greek adviser would let them know that XYZ and ABC were both offering her a snap bid, but don't quote me on that...

UGAalum94 · #6 04-06-2007, 04:09 PM

These answers explain why you wouldn't really know how it worked unless you actually did bid matching or were the one who extended the snap bid. Thank you for explaining.

But in almost all of these examples, it seem like the only way that a girl might get a snap bid from a chapter that cut her would be in she dropped out of rush (which makes sense because if she continued, she would probably have matched with someone else).

Those of you who did snap bidding as advisers or bid matching teams, can you think of cases in which you gave a snap bid to a girl who you cut? (Not to be too darkly cynical, but isn't this where the stories about "computer glitches" usually have their origins?)

seraphimsprite · #7 04-06-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Those of you who did snap bidding as advisers or bid matching teams, can you think of cases in which you gave a snap bid to a girl who you cut?

I can think of one case from my undergraduate chapter where we gave a snap bid to a girl we had cut (although she ended up declining anyway.) But the reason I remember it was because it ended up being a bit of a "situation" in the chapter - basically the snap bidding team decided to offer the girl a bid because they had liked her even though she had been released by the chapter. But that definitely isn't how it's supposed to happen and we were chewed out by our chapter consultant for that one because we are not supposed to snap bid women who we have released. That might vary by sorority though so I can't speak for everyone.

As for the success of snap bidding...most of the women who I've seen picked up through snap bids (and actually accepted) were women who had dropped out of recruitment right before preference or decided not to sign their pref card and then had a change of heart the next day and were regretting their decision.

NUBlue&Blue · #8 04-06-2007, 06:08 PM

Do you think it happens more often when you only have 2 chapters at pref? We preffed 3 chapters because we had a bigger greek system, but I don't think I even knew what a snap bid was until my daughter went to college. I don't ever remember it happening in our sorority, but we also didn't (and still don't) have a quota system like most schools. But it would seem that just by adding that one more chapter to pref, you would have a lot more chances of matching as many girls as possible. (Keep in mind, I had a major with no math required

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DeltaBetaBaby · #9 04-08-2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

These answers explain why you wouldn't really know how it worked unless you actually did bid matching or were the one who extended the snap bid. Thank you for explaining.

But in almost all of these examples, it seem like the only way that a girl might get a snap bid from a chapter that cut her would be in she dropped out of rush (which makes sense because if she continued, she would probably have matched with someone else).

Those of you who did snap bidding as advisers or bid matching teams, can you think of cases in which you gave a snap bid to a girl who you cut? (Not to be too darkly cynical, but isn't this where the stories about "computer glitches" usually have their origins?)

Hahaha, there is NO SUCH THING as a computer glitch...only user error.

Without getting too much into MS, many snap bids at Illinois were women who dropped out of rush. Keep in mind that schools with tons of chapters have GRUELING schedules, so there are plenty of women who drop out for reasons other than "didn't like invites".

Another type of snap bid went to women who did not participate in formal recruitment. Think of this as early COB, but if you could get the girl to sign a card on bid day and join the NM class, she would then be in the mix with everyone else, and she would be bound to your chapter for one year. The key here is that the girl would have to have been contacted after the FR deadline.

And yes, plenty of chapter abuse the privelege if they know they will be under total even if they make quota.

UGAalum94 · #10 04-08-2007, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Another type of snap bid went to women who did not participate in formal recruitment. Think of this as early COB, but if you could get the girl to sign a card on bid day and join the NM class, she would then be in the mix with everyone else, and she would be bound to your chapter for one year. The key here is that the girl would have to have been contacted after the FR deadline.

And yes, plenty of chapter abuse the privelege if they know they will be under total even if they make quota.

Wow. I had never even thought of this! It it allowed everywhere? It seems like it would be really helpful for chapters that appeal to and are willing to make contact with girls who would never consider going through formal rush. I always assumed you'd have to wait until after formal rush was completely over and you were having COB events. Do these kind of snap bid count against the fall rush quota?

Drolefille · #11 04-08-2007, 10:44 PM

That wasn't considered a "snap bid" at our school. It was a COB. But the girls were called to show up on bid day so that no one would really know the difference. Occasionally we'd do this with someone we wanted to bid the previous semester but didn't get a chance before it was too late in the year.

TSteven · #12 04-09-2007, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Another type of snap bid went to women who did not participate in formal recruitment. Think of this as early COB, but if you could get the girl to sign a card on bid day and join the NM class, she would then be in the mix with everyone else, and she would be bound to your chapter for one year. The key here is that the girl would have to have been contacted after the FR deadline.

And yes, plenty of chapter abuse the privelege if they know they will be under total even if they make quota.

Correct me if I misunderstand how this works, but if a chapter is under campus total (regardless if they make quota or not), NPC rules allows them to bid until they make total. So the sooner a chapter can bid a PNM, the less time (and numbers) the chapter needs to COB during the rest of the semester to reach total. That doesn't sound like an abuse at all. Snap bidding when you aren't at total early on seems like smart membership recruitment to me.

33girl · #13 08-16-2015, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Another type of snap bid went to women who did not participate in formal recruitment. Think of this as early COB, but if you could get the girl to sign a card on bid day and join the NM class, she would then be in the mix with Everyone else, and she would be bound to your chapter for one year. The key here is that the girl would have to have been contacted after the FR deadline.

EVERY chapter should have a list of women like this in their back pocket, especially now with RFM. Bidding someone like this seems that it would be a lot easier on the chapter's ego than not making quota, snapping, and then having women turn down the snap. Obviously I'm not advocating blowing off women who signed up and paid for formal, but if your snap choices are Bitter Britney 1-45 who weren't nice or gracious at all when they visited your chapter....then yeah.

AOE2AlphaPhi · #14 04-06-2007, 04:15 PM

At my school, I know a girl who cut a sorority before preference, didn't get a bid from either of the houses she preffed, and got a snap bid from the house she cut. The house that got her decided to give her the snap bid after they saw that her best friend would be in the house. She got her bid card with everyone else and happily went off to her house.