Snap bids

KSUViolet06 · #1 04-05-2007, 11:47 PM

Glad to help. Usually (speaking for my campus only here), a girl will decline a snap bid if she gets one. because the bid they're presented with at the end is from someone that they were not interested in and that wasn't even on their final ranking. For example (and I'm using RANDOM sorority names here, no getting offended) you ranked AZD and Chi O in the end, and you open your bid card and there's a bid from Theta, whom you released (for whatever reason) after round one. It's a little shocking.

But in the instances that I've seen where a girl was given a snap bid, accepted it, and given them a chance, they've turned out to be really good members.

Personally, I've always felt like snap bidding was used more to help keep girls from going bidless in the end in the event that they don't end up receiving bids from either of the groups they preffed.

Conversely, it's used as a way to help groups get to quota if they haven't reached it after bids have been matched.

UGAalum94 · #2 04-05-2007, 11:52 PM

Well, one of those points is sort of why I'm asking.

If the snap bid comes from a group that cut you, there's a strong chance the girls would eagerly take a snap bid.

In the cases in which the girl cut them, I wouldn't think it would be a successful way for the group to get to quota very often, and yet, snap bid are given and accepted.

KSUViolet06 · #3 04-05-2007, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

If the snap bid comes from a group that cut you, there's a strong chance the girls would eagerly take a snap bid.

Come to think of it, I've never seen a snap bid come from a group that released someone. It's usually from a group whom the GIRL cut early on (which is why at my school they don't get accepted often). I know they can, but it's not something I've seen. Have you seen it in your UGA experience?

UGAalum94 · #4 04-06-2007, 12:10 AM

Well, I don't really have any experience knowing how people actually got their bids.

But I think that when I hear reports of groups snap bidding up to quota, I think that they are offering bids to people they previously released because many of the girls who cut them would have either matched to other groups or still want to stand by their first cut.

I'm hoping that someone will step forward and mention cases that they know of at any school. It's weird though because the people who really would know probably don't feel comfortable talking about it because on some level it's MS. I'm kind of hoping for friend of a friend stories that people heard from girls who got snap bids.

ETA: Especially with the new release figures, there'd be a lot of girls out there that the group released who, if they didn't make quota through regular bid matching, they'd probably love to see again.

ForeverRoses · #5 04-06-2007, 08:13 AM

Maybe snap bidding has changed, but when I was in school (at Ohio University), snap bids came after everyone else recieved thier bids. So if a girl did not get a bid and was available for a snap bid, all the sororities had to wait until after a certain time. Then it could be a mad scramble to the doors of the available girls.

For us, the most successful snap bids were to girls who had a friend in the newest new member class. I remember one brand new new member being pulled off the lawn on bid day by someone from membership selection to go and offer a snap bid to her best friend (who had cut us after 2nd parties). 10 minutes later the best friend was on our lawn in letters and ended up being a great addition.

I guess you have to remember that sometimes a girl will cut ABC sorority not because she hated them, but because she can only go to so many parties, and ABC might be 4th on her list, and she can only go to 3.

UGAalum94 · #6 04-06-2007, 08:45 AM

Thank you both so much for answering, and especially KSUViolet for providing so much information.

It certainly seems likely that a lot of snap bids work that way. I'm still interested to hear if they go the same way now.

Any maybe in a lot of cases it'd be too complicated to go back and offer a girl you released a bid. I'm tending to think in terms of girls the group liked but were below the few they could keep with releases. But maybe retroactively there's no way to know why someone was released: maybe they were released purely on numbers, maybe they were released because they were skanky. Nobody would want to take a chance on getting that wrong.

I've never been a membership chair or adviser of any sort, so I really don't know. I think I was probably happier as a undergraduate member not knowing any more than I did.

I was having a hard time figuring out how I was was hearing stories about more group having to snap to quota. Certainly, girls with a lot of invitations after first round do probably cut groups they like, it was just surprising that "enough" girls who had those kind of results were bidless after the whole thing.

ASUADPi · #7 04-06-2007, 10:08 AM

I don't know much about snap bidding, but I kind of remember years ago that ASU snap bidding occured right after official bids were given to the girls (but maybe not opened yet, I shrug my shoulders). I remember the girls getting a list and seeing if there was a girl that they wanted to snap bid.

Question: If a PNM drops can she still be snap bidded? What about a chapter just offering her a bid in the first place?

I've heard, through the greek grapevine while I was in college, that some PNM's would drop. They were legacies and they did try to rush but they really just wanted to go their legacy house, so they dropped. In the end the legacy house "picked them up". Can that happen?

jadis96 · #8 04-09-2007, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Any maybe in a lot of cases it'd be too complicated to go back and offer a girl you released a bid. I'm tending to think in terms of girls the group liked but were below the few they could keep with releases. But maybe retroactively there's no way to know why someone was released: maybe they were released purely on numbers, maybe they were released because they were skanky. Nobody would want to take a chance on getting that wrong.

I know that snap bids on my campus were never offered if the chapter had dropped the girl for any reason EXCEPT numbers. If it was a case of her being dropped because someone felt she was not worthy of being in letters then she did not receive a snap bid from that chapter no matter what the quota situation was.

aopirose · #9 04-06-2007, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

Maybe snap bidding has changed, but when I was in school (at Ohio University), snap bids came after everyone else recieved thier bids.

That is COB. Snap Bids are done as KSUViolet and ASUADPi said right after bid matching. Usually, it is before everyone disperses with the final list The only people who would really know if Sally Sue is a snap bid are the people in the room at the time and Sally Sue. She'll get her bid with everyone else and if she or other people say nothing, no one will ever know that she is a snap bid.

gpb1874 · #10 04-06-2007, 12:15 PM

what aopirose said is correct. directly after bid matching, while everyone is still in the room (at least at my campus), we look at any unmatched women and see if those that did not make quota want to snap bid them. If someone is snap bid, it's often not a chapter they listed, although it could happen (if bid matching stops before all chapters meet quota except a couple and some women are left bidless due to how the process works).

If it's a chapter the woman did not list, Panhel would call and say "you did not receive a bid from the chapters on your list, but ABC wants to offer you a bid." ABC advisor may be present during that call and talk to the woman if she has any questions. The woman comes to sign her bid card before bid day festivities begin (if all works out well) and no one but the advisors know she was given a snap bid. I've only seen this done if the woman is on the chapter's bid list OR was really liked and ended up dropping out of recruitment. I'd assume the chapter would have discussed this possibility at some point during MS.

Here, women usually only self-release if they are sick, something serious happens (family related), they have a previous committment they cannot miss or they're called into work. They do not drop out with the hopes of getting a snap bid (usually 2 out of 3 chapters make quota).

In the example mentioned earlier of a legacy dropping out b/c she only wants her legacy house and just wants a snap bid at the end, she would be taking a SERIOUS risk. If that chapter gets to quota, she is screwed. The chapter could not hold open a spot for her during the bid matching process, even if they really wanted to offer her a bid.

I hope that makes sense. Let me know if it doesn't. There's a lot more detail that can be added, but I didn't want it to be too much info.

AOE2AlphaPhi · #11 04-06-2007, 04:15 PM

At my school, I know a girl who cut a sorority before preference, didn't get a bid from either of the houses she preffed, and got a snap bid from the house she cut. The house that got her decided to give her the snap bid after they saw that her best friend would be in the house. She got her bid card with everyone else and happily went off to her house.

jadis96 · #12 04-09-2007, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

I guess you have to remember that sometimes a girl will cut ABC sorority not because she hated them, but because she can only go to so many parties, and ABC might be 4th on her list, and she can only go to 3.

My only experience with snap bidding was on the side of the chapter and normally at my school (back in the day 8 years ago) this is what happened. PNMs had to pick 13chapters, 7chapters, 4 chapters, 2 chapters. A girl could rank ABC chapter as her choice for 3rd but only got to attend 2 parties so getting a bid was still something she might want from that chapter because it was still in her upper choices.

Yet again my experiences here are older though.