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04-05-2007, 09:31 AM
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The point of the pageant in three sentences.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
"This pageant is showing that we are beautiful," said contestant LaTya Palms, a freshman from Nashville, Tenn. "Beauty has no size."
Price said the pageant has helped her tune into her self-confidence and self-respect more.
"This show presents something good to the public," Price said. "We are a population who is often overlooked."
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Again, kudos to the Omegas.
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04-05-2007, 09:40 AM
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Watch out the big girls... now I wanna be in a pageant
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04-05-2007, 10:21 AM
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That's a great outcome! I'm just curious why there were no non-African American participants, only because it seems that (in my experience) plus size African American women are accepted more than plus size white women.
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04-05-2007, 10:43 AM
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PMMama: what I thought was weird was that with I think one totally positive and one mainly positive posts, people chose to comment on the one area that might be negative. You're right though, it may be the GreekChat way. Thanks so much for pointing that out. You are a ray of illuminating sunshine an a dark and confusing GreekChat world.
I am really happy that the pageant was a success! Nice job to everyone involved and for Wolfman for bringing it to our attention.
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04-05-2007, 11:24 AM
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Many people don't understand pageants, so they ridicule them at every chance. Many people don't understand Greek life, so they ridicule it, too. Ever think of it that way?
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04-05-2007, 11:27 AM
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Many people don't understand pageants, so they ridicule them at every chance. Many people don't understand Greek life, so they ridicule it, too. Ever think of it that way?
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04-05-2007, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00
That's a great outcome! I'm just curious why there were no non-African American participants, only because it seems that (in my experience) plus size African American women are accepted more than plus size white women.
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I'll agree with that too. Why is that?
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04-05-2007, 12:00 PM
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My guess is that none entered because it was an Omega event and they decided that it must not be for them because they were nervous like that.
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04-05-2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ChildoftheHorn
According to recent studies the average woman is actually a size 14.
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Interesting. I'm presently a size 12, and it is nearly impossible to find clothes that fit properly. (I have been a size 8, sometimes even a 6 most of my life, but am still working to regain my figure with 2 children under the age of 3.  ) Clothing at most stores is cut for a smaller frame. I finally decided to try to see if I could find a pair of jeans that fit well at Lane Bryant...the second I walked into the store, the saleslady said "honey, nothing in here is going to fit you."
You'd think that if the average size is actually a 14, it might be a little easier for women in the 10-16ish range to actually find clothes! What in the world do they expect us to wear?
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04-05-2007, 01:12 PM
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Continuing the tangent, sorry.
My husband and I were talking about this yesterday after a trip to The Gap. What we were thinking is that the morbidly obese people, like half-ton man, are throwing off the averages quite a bit. The range down from a size 14 is relatively limited compared with the range up from there. If they aren't discounting the outliers at the top of the range, well, there you go.
But I hear you about how hard it is to find clothes that fit well or simply look decent if you're size eight through 14, and most of the people who wear these sizes would have healthy BMIs, so we are not talking about overweight people from a health standpoint.
I think I once read that the average for a man's waist size is a about a 40 to give people a sense of the guy equivalent of what "average" is. *
I think the fashion industry is aimed at a certain segment of the market and the rest of us are just supposed to make due.
* while it's easy to find sites discussing women's clothing sizes, almost every search for men returns a bunch of results on penis size. I wonder what that says about our culture?
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04-05-2007, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga
What we were thinking is that the morbidly obese people, like half-ton man, are throwing off the averages quite a bit.
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I think Nicole Richie, Lilo, Paris, and Hilary Duff make up for that, though.
Hell, Nicole Richie alone knocks off 5 fat guys.
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04-05-2007, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by susan314
Interesting. I'm presently a size 12, and it is nearly impossible to find clothes that fit properly. (I have been a size 8, sometimes even a 6 most of my life, but am still working to regain my figure with 2 children under the age of 3.  ) Clothing at most stores is cut for a smaller frame. I finally decided to try to see if I could find a pair of jeans that fit well at Lane Bryant...the second I walked into the store, the saleslady said "honey, nothing in here is going to fit you."
You'd think that if the average size is actually a 14, it might be a little easier for women in the 10-16ish range to actually find clothes! What in the world do they expect us to wear?
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I fit right into this category with you. A 10 is way too small and a 14 is too big. Some 12's don't fit right depending on the store. Good luck on getting that figure back. I haven't been an 8 since the year B.K. (before kids)
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04-05-2007, 01:37 PM
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AlphaFrog, I know what you are saying and yet as far as averages, Nicole can't really go below a size zero zero or whatever, which would be what eight sizes below 14, whereas going up, we've got infinity.
And, I think almost every article on health basically admits obesity is maybe the single greatest health issue for the country with diabetes, high blood pressure, hearth disease, associated. We are not a nation of thin people.
But again, I want to point out that the people in the pageant whose thread I'm digressing from are probably more in the healthy and beautiful range of larger sizes. The pageant is good and corrects somewhat from the idea that being underweight is what's desirable.
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04-05-2007, 01:46 PM
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Absolutely not true. Very few people can possibly, even with starving themselves, have a beauty queen body. Most people just are not built like that. Hell, my skeleton alone probably wouldn't fit into anything smaller than an 8. I could starve myself, have surgery, etc and still never be a size 2.
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Well, originally i was going to say something like be as thin as them, or be their size, but i realize that for some people that is not true. I said "figure" in terms of the silhouette of the body. the human eye is attracted to certain proportions of the human body. I'm not sure exactly the number but, if you divide the measurement of your waist into your hips the ideal proportion is something like .87 for women. So, obviously, you could be a size 8 and still have those proportions. That is what i meant by figure, sorry for the misunderstanding.
Everyone does have a different body type, but size 24 is not a body type, it's over weight. People need to stop lying to themselves.
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04-05-2007, 02:55 PM
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This doesn't make sense. I can show you 10 young women. So what? If I tried hard enough I could show you 10 hermaphrodites. Or 10 fingers and toes. Elaborate?
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Obviously you do not understand this phrase. I was inferring that 10 out of 10 young women have bad eating habits. And by bad i don't mean they don't eat enough, but maybe they eat fast food 3 times a week or fry everything in sight or can't eat only 2 oreos, but have to eat half the bag. Unhealthy eating can be something other than anorexic, like those of an overweight person in a plus size beauty pageant.
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