question about de-brothering

[DPUDChi]

Do IFC/NIC cross reference membership lists by social sercurity #s when new guys pledge?

I highly doubt it.

Uhhh, whether or not they will acutally cross reference social security #'s, I'm not sure. But, I can tell you that Delta Chi's IHQ requires the socail for an initiate on his PR (personal record) form before permission to initiate is granted. The form also asks for any other fraternal or secret order affiliation.

It was always my understanding that once you are initiated into a national fraternity, that you may never join any other naional fraternity. Delta Chi expressly prohibits its chapters from initiating anyone who has ever been initiated into another fraternity. DX also disallows its members, even those who deactivate, to ever join another fraternity.

I do have to ask, though, does this counts for non-secretive fraternities, such as Delta Upsilon? Can DU initiate a inactive member of another fraternity, and can DX initiate an inactive DU (or any other non-secretive fraternity)?

[Confuzzled23]

I don't understand why its so serious about dropping out and joining another fraternity.. its a club/organization just like anything else out there, sure its got its secrets but its not like u know how to convert lead into gold or somethin.

I just dont get why its such a big deal?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Confuzzled23

I don't understand why its so serious about dropping out and joining another fraternity.. its a club/organization just like anything else out there, sure its got its secrets but its not like u know how to convert lead into gold or somethin.

I just dont get why its such a big deal?

You don't deserve to be in a Fraternity.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Confuzzled23

I don't understand why its so serious about dropping out and joining another fraternity.. its a club/organization just like anything else out there, sure its got its secrets but its not like u know how to convert lead into gold or somethin.

I just dont get why its such a big deal?

When you pledged or were initiated into your present fraternity, did you take a vow or oath to be loyal to that fraternity and not to pledge any other fraternity? (Answer this in your head, not online.) That would be one reason it is a big deal. I don't know too many clubs or organizations where that kind of promise is made.

Loyalty is another. Joining a fraternity is (or should be) a life-time commitment, not a three- or four-year or while-I-feel-like-it hitch. If you're not in it for the long-haul, you might as well not bother.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by DPUDChi

I do have to ask, though, does this counts for non-secretive fraternities, such as Delta Upsilon? Can DU initiate a inactive member of another fraternity, and can DX initiate an inactive DU (or any other non-secretive fraternity)?

AFAIK, the only difference between DU and other NIC fraternities is that their ritual is secret. The not joining another group doesn't have to do with other people being able to see the ritual, it has to do with the oaths you took. Whether you took them in the presence of only your brothers or in front of the whole campus community shouldn't matter.

Oh, and I agree with Alpha Frog. I sincerely hope the LSU brothers are reading this thread.

[SWTXBelle]

There are a slew of other types of clubs you can join - I'd suggest you look into those.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by DPUDChi

I do have to ask, though, does this counts for non-secretive fraternities, such as Delta Upsilon? Can DU initiate a inactive member of another fraternity, and can DX initiate an inactive DU (or any other non-secretive fraternity)?

Delta Upsilon and Alpha Kappa Lambda (the other NIC fraternity that is "non-secretive") are members of the NIC. As such, for a member of either fraternity to potentially join another NIC - or visa verse - the member would need to terminate their membership and be granted a release by the IHQ before he can do so.