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04-03-2007, 06:40 PM
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John, I will help out with anything you need me to. Although I am limited, if you point me in a legal direction I can help out.
Just out of curiousity, he has depression and anxiety and has in the past been allowed to live by himself in a double? Why can't he just live in a single by himself? Is there a medical condition where he needs to have the extra room?
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04-03-2007, 06:46 PM
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04-03-2007, 09:31 PM
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Thanks for the link
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I appreciatethe link to the codes. I was thinking about crusing overto the law school @ Chapman University to look these up.
The downside to this whole affair is that I'd have to ask the State of Arizona AG to enforce the law againstthe State of Arizona, his employer. That is a tough thing to do. Much better to find some Federal case law that settles the issue.
To compound the situation, the plaintiff wouldn't come off as a sympathetic plaintiff. He's not from Arizona, is overweight, and pursues "an alternate lifestyle". A gay plaintiff just wouldn't garner much support for anything in the State of Arizona.
Matter came to me via a colleague in Alaska who knows that do some work on college campuses - I guess being a High Pi without chapter does this!
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04-03-2007, 09:17 PM
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John, I will help out with anything you need me to. Although I am limited, if you point me in a legal direction I can help out.
Just out of curiousity, he has depression and anxiety and has in the past been allowed to live by himself in a double? Why can't he just live in a single by himself? Is there a medical condition where he needs to have the extra room?
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The school doesn't have any singles, that is the problem. If it did then we wouldn't be havingthis discussion. The back story is that NAU has been having an unprecedented surge in enrollment and they are short of dorm space and would like to fill every bed that they can and giving one individual a single occupancy of a double room deprives someone else of that bed, regardless of the price paid.
He has been allowed to live in the double dorm room by himself, paying the goingrate for two spaces for his first two years, but they are balking at year three.
Apparently the anxiety issue drives the need for a single, the ability to go someplace and close the door and not be disturbed.
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04-03-2007, 09:24 PM
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A dorm is not like a hotel. Paying for the double room doesn't pay for the lost tuition of another student who could be living there and attending school.
In effect, this kid is kicking another kid out of college. What gives him the right to do that?
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04-03-2007, 09:35 PM
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A dorm is not like a hotel. Paying for the double room doesn't pay for the lost tuition of another student who could be living there and attending school.
In effect, this kid is kicking another kid out of college. What gives him the right to do that?
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It is called a reasonable accomodation and for the past two years it has been acceptable with the university. Now there is a new housing administrator who wants butts in rooms.
He isn't depriving a kid from attending the university, just from a bed in a dorm. If the kid who doesn't get into the dorm can handle living downtown and this kid can't then should the non-disabled kid oust the disabled kid from the school? That is the flip side of your argument.
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04-03-2007, 09:46 PM
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Jono, John is right about mental disabilities. I personally suffer from ADHD and OCD, but thankfully I have them pretty much under control. Don't tell me it doesn't affect people's lives. Don't tell me it doesn't affect my life when I have to check to make sure I locked the door 5 times and that I unplugged the iron 7 times, for reasons I don't even know or understand, before heading to class or leaving my apartment. I used to HAVE to do it.
If it was in Mass., I could help you out more John. If you need some research done, let me know (lexisnexis and westlaw here I come!).
Personally, I just think the admin. needs a kick in the pants. I really do think that kick needs to be filing with the AG as well as whoever enforces the ADA standards on a state level.
I think I read while quickly looking over the law briefly that there are some free counsel available in Az. for filing such a complaint.
I don't have the time tonight to look any further unfortunately.
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04-03-2007, 09:47 PM
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Yeah I was gonna suggest an apartment myself, but if he is incapable of handling that then there is no reason why he shouldnt be allowed to stay in a double by himself as long as he is paying.
I can also personally attest to the fact that living off campus is somewhat cheaper, most Colleges make you purchase a meal plan if you live on campus, which at my school was a waste of $3000, more than enough to cover rent, and then I dont have to pay room and board either so I was sitting on $6000 owed to the school to be cramped up in a dorm and eat crappy caf food at most twice a day (when I ate there), especially when I was paying for 3. So based on my math it was more economical to rent an apartment, buy my own food, and travel, than it was for me to live on campus, eat the worst food imaginable, and have to live by their rules.....NO THANK YOU
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04-03-2007, 09:48 PM
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Yeah, Trey's situation was the same at my school. It was cheaper, and easier to live off capus. Look into it!
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04-04-2007, 07:20 AM
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John I don't think that you have to involve the AG to enforce it, you can file a civil suit for an injunction, or so it would seem to me in my reading of the codes. There has to be an AZ attorney who does this sort of thing.
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