Black student - 7 yrs Assault/ White student - probation arson, Paris TX

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

How come you think it is funny on the one hand, then sad on the other?

Well, I think those names are funny because they just are. At the same time, however, they're sad because I know that these people will probably have a hard time being taken seriously as adults if they pursue higher education or professional careers. I don't think I would hire an Aliz'eeta Vuitton to be one of my architects unless she was double-Ivy, magna cum laude at both.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Well, I think those names are funny because they just are. At the same time, however, they're sad because I know that these people will probably have a hard time being taken seriously as adults if they pursue higher education or professional careers. I don't think I would hire an Aliz'eeta Vuitton to be one of my architects unless she was double-Ivy, magna cum laude at both.

But we hire folks with all kinds of names that employers are unable to pronounce. So, what are you really trying to say? Basically, stop your reasoning behind your justification to hate. Just say that you do and deal with it. Most of us can handle it. It is the young people that won't. Probably because their momma's actually did name them after a car or a shoe.

[1908Revelations]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Well, I think those names are funny because they just are. At the same time, however, they're sad because I know that these people will probably have a hard time being taken seriously as adults if they pursue higher education or professional careers. I don't think I would hire an Aliz'eeta Vuitton to be one of my architects unless she was double-Ivy, magna cum laude at both.

I understand that the names sound funny, but the name is in an indicator of their abilities. So to say a woman named Lisa will do fine coming from a state school, but Alize has to come from Princeton is just wrong. People will judge them for their names and ask them how did the get them, but damn! My name is very comon so I do not and will not have that problem, but I would hate it if I had to graduate from Ivy Leauge twice to even be considered for a job plus have a 4.0 sheesh how many people on GC have 4.0 at the completion of their Bachelors? (don't answer that) This is exactly why if I have children I will stick to mainstream names because I would be pissed if my child got passed up for a job because of their name.

[VAgirl18]

Originally Posted by 1908Revelations

I understand that the names sound funny, but the name is in an indicator of their abilities. So to say a woman named Lisa will do fine coming from a state school, but Alize has to come from Princeton is just wrong. People will judge them for their names and ask them how did the get them, but damn! My name is very comon so I do not and will not have that problem, but I would hate it if I had to graduate from Ivy Leauge twice to even be considered for a job plus have a 4.0 sheesh how many people on GC have 4.0 at the completion of their Bachelors? (don't answer that) This is exactly why if I have children I will stick to mainstream names because I would be pissed if my child got passed up for a job because of their name.

co-sign...

and rev -- the ex wanted his first son to have his first name.. NO WAY would i ever agree to that!! (you know what i'm talking about)

[UGAalum94]

This may have been mentioned before, but some group did a study and found out that certain type names are discriminated against when people evaluate resumes.

While it may be a shame that people make these assumptions based on name alone, it's pretty easy to keep the assumptions in mind when you name your kid. Why make things harder for the kid by giving him or her a name likely to be problematic?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

This may have been mentioned before, but some group did a study and found out that certain type names are discriminated against when people evaluate resumes.

While it may be a shame that people make these assumptions based on name alone, it's pretty easy to keep the assumptions in mind when you name your kid. Why make things harder for the kid by giving him or her a name likely to be problematic?

Because most people think they can name their children what every they want in the US. Moreover, the freedom to name one's offspring has occured for at least 50 years. Yet, should a child be ashamed for what his or her name because that is what his or her parents chose as a name?

Having a name is one of the first levels of critical thinking for oneself...

So are we suppose to become submissive and fit our names under what you describe essential for our names?

I use to know someone who did that, we use to call him overseer or "Massa".

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by AKA_Monet

Because most people think they can name their children what every they want in the US. Moreover, the freedom to name one's offspring has occured for at least 50 years. Yet, should a child be ashamed for what his or her name because that is what his or her parents chose as a name?

Having a name is one of the first levels of critical thinking for oneself...

So are we suppose to become submissive and fit our names under what you describe essential for our names?

I use to know someone who did that, we use to call him overseer or "Massa".

Whoa. People can name their kids anything they want; I certainly don't dispute that. I haven't outlined anything as essential for "your" names. I just pointed out the results of a study about resume screenings; I didn't screen the resumes.

I joke around about naming my kids after characters in Shakespeare, but I think they'd take a lot of extra teasing for it, so I don't think I really would.

So I wonder if you know that giving your child a certain kind of name will close doors for him or her, why would you do that? Is your answer "just because we can"?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

So I wonder if you know that giving your child a certain kind of name will close doors for him or her, why would you do that? Is your answer "just because we can"?

Doors are closed for people for any given reason. The way names are spelled to their looks or what interviewers are looking for in a candidate. That is the nature of jobs and careers in this country (I am unsure how is it in other countries).

If people want to be prejudicial regarding names, then let them say it and relish and bask in their bigotry.

But some people make a ton of money based on their weirded out name and that becomes all relative...

You think the kids who were named after the first gulf war: Bush and Saddam are having issues?

Hayle, I knew kids named after Marc Antony and Cleopatra and they were anything but Black...

So, yes, Black names can get wild and out, but so do other names and the everyone wants there child to be that one child who will change the world and become unique.

Too bad they didn't tell them it has more to do with actions than names...