If Al Gore was president....

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I just find it interesting that NCLB came from a conservative, Republican president. One would expect a greater deference to federalism, where education is supposed to be the province of the states, not of the federal government. But I guess that went out the window a long time ago.

Well, MysticCat, it's really hard to make the argument based on anything he's done really that Bush is a truly conservative president who defers to federalism.

He may be religiously and socially conservative, but for restraint and federalism, he is not the right guy.

(He may have ended up getting justices through who will support it, so his legacy may end up different than the actually presidency.)

I agree though the progress from Republicans wanting to get rid of the federal Department of Education to NCLB is bizarre. (And no doubt, it's one of the reasons why some people believe that NCLB isn't REALLY about reforming education: for them, it's about declaring all the public schools failing.)

[shinerbock]

Vouchers. Discuss.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Well, MysticCat, it's really hard to make the argument based on anything he's done really that Bush is a truly conservative president who defers to federalism.

He may be religiously and socially conservative, but for restraint and federalism, he is not the right guy.

I agree completely. I guess my facetiousness was too subtle.

[shinerbock]

Fiscal conservatism is dead. Unless Thompson or Romney wins the presidency, then maybe we'll have a shot, who knows.

On the other side, you have Edwards running a robin hood "steal from the rich" campaign.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

I agree completely. I guess my facetiousness was too subtle.

Sorry, I guess it was for me.

I know too many people who don't know what conservatives really are or should be. I work with someone active in the Republican party who wanted to see laws regulating what previews could be shown at G rated movies because the last time she took her kid to a movie, the previews were too scary. The idea that maybe we didn't need the government to regulate movie previews hadn't occurred to her, I guess. (Surely, this is an area where private pressure could accomplish the desired end without governmental regulation.)

Vouchers: I doubt they will really amount to a net improvement, but it wouldn't bother me to try them. But it's very hard to find anyone who can clearly articulate how a voucher system would work if every kid was entitled to one.

Would we privatize all aspects of what had been public school? If so, how?

[RU OX Alum]

People who want to ban what can be shown in theatres are the same ones who would burn you at the stake if they could.

[Tom Earp]

There is much talk about how people feel.

Please explain to Me the difference of:

1. Liberal.
2. Concervative.
3. Moderat.

There seems to be a problem about whom people are?

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

There is much talk about how people feel.

Please explain to Me the difference of:

1. Liberal.
2. Concervative.
3. Moderat.

There seems to be a problem about whom people are?

........with spelling.

[shinerbock]

Here Tom

Liberals- love animals, love the environment, hate religion, hate war, love controversy, love minorities, love women, hate white men, hate SUV's, hate the rich, love the poor, hate capitalism, hate guns, are sympathetic to criminals, hate personal responsibility...

Conservatives- like to eat animals, love religion, like war, disregard the poor and minorities, love suv's and trucks, love capitalism, love personal responsibility, love offending people, love guns, hate criminals, hate academia, love Israel...

Moderates- Like E entertainment television, read USA Today, care about the Anna Nicole saga, don't know what capitalism is, agree with whatever the media consensus is on the status of the Iraq war, will decide who they're voting for in 2008 based on what ties the candidates wear at the debates...

Hope that helps.